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Old 08-24-2017, 09:48 PM   #36
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I'm interested in this. Put an Echo in one of my ARs and love it. Lots of fun. Would like the selection for an AK.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:56 PM   #37
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That is sweet,how can one be obtained.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:29 PM   #38
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I'm in for two at least, pending an ATF approval.
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:15 PM   #39
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I want one! You think you could make a video shooting it as fast as you can pull it?
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:38 PM   #40
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In for 2 of them pending price, function, and ATF approval of course.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:07 PM   #41
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If you happen to have a booth at bullpupshoot, I bet people would love to demo your product before taking the plunge.
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:30 PM   #42
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:31 PM   #43
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Have a few videos up on my channel from doing another 1000 round test today
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:33 PM   #44
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:56 AM   #45
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How about for an RPK?
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:47 PM   #46
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Does it use a standard ak trigger if so then yes it would work.
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:23 PM   #47
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Does it use a standard ak trigger if so then yes it would work.
Cool. Don't know. RPK kit is next.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:03 PM   #48
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Ahh buffalo range.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:40 PM   #49
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Ok that looks fun as hell. Nice work! I'd like to see the trigger when its safe for some pictures.
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:06 PM   #50
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Ok that looks fun as hell. Nice work! I'd like to see the trigger when its safe for some pictures.
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:16 PM   #51
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:25 PM   #52
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I'm down for one as well, pending ATF approval.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:46 AM   #53
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Count me in for one as long as it is legal and not crazy expensive.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:12 PM   #54
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:49 AM   #55
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I'm certainly interested. Not that it matters to much for this application, but what weight for the trigger break at on the pull? Similar to a G2?
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:43 PM   #56
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Same as the G2.
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Old 09-22-2017, 08:29 AM   #57
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Definitely interested pending approval! I saw the videos and the ad on Armslist for $150
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:02 PM   #58
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is there any protection from an out of battery primer strike which could cause catastrophic results? or are you timing the release on reset and not moving fast enough to effect cycling or primer hits?

how are you retarding the hammer? seeing as the hammer retard on a full auto ak is important, giving that split second delay for the bolt to reach battery before the hammer hits the primer, this is a concern I have, and you may have issues with overcycling the pull and release, causing OOB discharges which blow apart trunnions and receiver walls....
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:18 PM   #59
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After making a few triggers and starting a new design on CAD i just don't really have time to go in to this venture at this time. To much going on with work and family. I'll still mess with the CAD in my free time for a direct drop in. Hopefully I will be able to market it sooner than or later.
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Old 11-11-2017, 02:11 PM   #60
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Any progress? I’d buy one
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:37 PM   #61
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Yes, please make this happen.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:16 PM   #62
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is there any protection from an out of battery primer strike which could cause catastrophic results? or are you timing the release on reset and not moving fast enough to effect cycling or primer hits?

how are you retarding the hammer? seeing as the hammer retard on a full auto ak is important, giving that split second delay for the bolt to reach battery before the hammer hits the primer, this is a concern I have, and you may have issues with overcycling the pull and release, causing OOB discharges which blow apart trunnions and receiver walls....
Hammer retarder is incorrect name. Its a rate reducer.
Sear is what keeps OOB discharges from happening
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:16 PM   #63
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Any update on these? My RPK keeps asking me.
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:55 PM   #64
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It's not hard to make a setup, grab two disconnectors, profile them down as thin as you can before the spring pockets break thru, leave the FA tail on one, cut it off the other, trim a little from the tip of the tail-less one, or put a bit of weld under the front. Add a little clearance inside the trigger, make a pair of spring pockets. Done. Have fun with all that hammer follow.

The problem I had with the bair arms setup is, well hammer follow. After I addressed that, with new springs. I can get it to work 100% of the time. Prefer it to the binary setup I have. Binary is in an underfolder, bump fire grip in a fixed stock gun
Its much easier than that. I made and sold some.
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Looks like I need to pound out a few more...
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:50 PM   #66
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Dear Americans,

Why in the world would anyone want a binary trigger(or bumpstock)? The binary trigger, to me, just feels super unsafe and like a great way to shoot yourself or a range buddy. Same as the bumpy seems like the worlds most inaccurate accessory.

I get it, full auto wooohoooo. But F/A on a 7.62 is about as useful as shit on a stick. I have F/A and I don’t ever use it for anything but stress tests after I change something vital.

Actually a serious question
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:09 PM   #67
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You want what you can't have, basically.

The majority of US gun owners simply won't get to play with FA guns often, though almost all of our sporting weapons are based upon a weapon that originally meant to be select-fire.

The entry price for the machine gun club is essentially fixed at 7000 dollars today, and the most popular historical assault rifles are all found at 25 to 35 thousand right now.

These other devices exist purely because of those legal and price prohibitions. They replicate the ability while still remaining within the scope of the law. They are amazing examples of ingenuity to work around a law that essentially was snuck in and wasn't properly voted on. Are they perfect? No. But they won't land you in federal prison (at least not yet) for using them to replicate cyclic rates of fire.

I think some of the earliest binary triggers did have some safety concerns, though I know fostech worked that out. I don't have any actual experience with binaries, so I can't comment on them.

Here's another example - you can often find British, German and Japanese youtoubers commenting on gun videos that they wish they could just own the MSRs that USA citizens can.

Play with your rifle more often while you're in the sandbox - I'm amazed at how much I neglected to mess with the stuff we had over there.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:07 PM   #68
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I have one in a PKM (first to do it&#128521 one in a M4,AR15, AR47,AR9, MG42(first for this also&#128521 and one in a 3 gun AR that Im putting together. Im waiting for one for my M249. That one will be awesome. The PKM is so much funnier to shot than just a normal semi auto. Man that thing comes to life. Yes I love them and are in a whole different world than a Bump stock. Franklin arms are the best by far
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:30 PM   #69
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Its much easier than that. I made and sold some.
I've got one in a romanian AK right now

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Old 12-08-2017, 09:05 PM   #70
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I've got one in a romanian AK right now
Did I make it? If so, how is it holding up? I have had multiple requests. Enough to merit making a big to do the drill work. But time is limited on my end.
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