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Old 12-03-2017, 08:47 AM   #141
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Your locking latch is not out too far. I have one in my hands now, and it is the same. I will have them check the sidefolding stock mechanisms to make sure they are gtg when it comes back to us.

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Old 12-06-2017, 02:28 AM   #142
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I took my PSA AK to the range today and fired 100 rounds without stove pipe or fail to extract issue. The cartridges were ejected consistently at 3 o'clock.

What I did to correct my FTE and stove pipe issues was to replace the very weak extractor spring in my PSA AK by using my Rommy G AK extractor spring.

I will email PSA to ask them to send me the needed parts to correct my PSA AK issues instead of shipping it back to PSA for repairing to save PSA a few bucks on shipping cost, gunsmith labor and ammo.

BTW, the metal triangle stock look very cool, but it wag my cheek whenever it goes bang and leave bruise on my shoulder, so I switched my stock back to the poly one, no more bruise or cheek wag. It felt more comfortable to shoot with the poly stock.


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Old 12-06-2017, 05:07 PM   #143
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Good to know travinh, glad you got it shooting good. I am going to try a saiga recoil spring in mine next time i shoot, it feels alot better with a normal ak recoil spring than the one it came with. Just has that ak slam to it now. Hopefully they fix all these little issues people are having. I could see a weak extractor spring going out the door though, if they test fired a few rounds it works so they shipped it. I didnt have any issues with mine i am just swapping things i like better lol, hopefully get a chance this week to shoot a hundred or so more. Glad to know some parts are swappable. Looks like you got your muzzle brake working to!
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:55 PM   #144
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Hi Logan,
My barrel bushing lock pin feels just like your. I end up using an AR crush washer to lock my muzzle device. I also have the same issue with my front sight adjustment block. I can not move it by hand like you described, but it move to the shooter right side slowly due to recoil and the slanted brake seems to push the muzzle to left during recoil. Since i going to replace my muzzle brake with the birdcage style, the front sight adjustment block may stay put.
How do intend to fix your front sight adjustment block?
I am planning to drop a few drops of red lock-tie in there to keep the sight adjustment block from moving.

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I took mine out today. Fired 195 rounds. Didn't have a single issue, and for that I'm happy. Recoil spring seems pretty weak. Bolt is slapping the trunnion pretty good. Seems fairly over-gassed as well.

Other issues I noticed was my sight post windage drum was moving left and right after each shot. Was wondering wtf was going on. Can move it with my thumb with little effort. Also what I didn't notice before is, it seems like someone forgot to install the plunger spring for the slant brake. I almost lost that until I realized it was un-screwing while being fired. So, looks like I'll be doing some more work to it.

All in all with the finish wear, machining marks, half ass put together for $630, I'd say it was money well Wasted. I'd much rather have a Yugo, or Romy for the same price.
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Your front sight is drifting when shooting? It should be tight enough it needs the ak front sight tool to move.
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Hi Logan,
My barrel bushing lock pin feels just like your. I end up using an AR crush washer to lock my muzzle device. I also have the same issue with my front sight adjustment block. I can not move it by hand like you described, but it move to the shooter right side slowly due to recoil and the slanted brake seems to push the muzzle to left during recoil. Since i going to replace my muzzle brake with the birdcage style, the front sight adjustment block may stay put.
How do intend to fix your front sight adjustment block?
I am planning to drop a few drops of red lock-tie in there to keep the sight adjustment block from moving.
Don't go straight to lock-tite. Lock-tite is great when you REALLY don't want the SOB to move, but for an intermediate step on something you may want to adjust, I highly recommend clear nail-polish. It's enough to add some stick and friction, but can still be removed if you need to adjust the FSP a bit.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:15 PM   #147
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Your front sight is drifting when shooting? It should be tight enough it needs the ak front sight tool to move.
Yes, it’s drifting to the right while shooting.

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Old 12-08-2017, 07:33 PM   #148
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I threw mine in the safe after I shot it, haven't really looked at it. Honestly, it's been a long while since I messed with AKs. But, my plan is to pop the windage drum out and take a metal chisel or punch and put a raised indent/bur on it. Hopefully that'll give it enough friction that I can use a tool on it and not have it loosen on me. That and put in a spring for the plunger.

So far the only thing holding it on is the front sight post.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:07 AM   #149
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Hello FPK and Logan,

Would please check your PSA AK to see if your AK have this interesting wear and tear at the receiver back-end. It appears to me that my PSA AK does not have the proper heat treat. Therefore, the bold carrier has removed some metal of my receiver back-end. I installed the recoil buffer to reduce the wear and tear in that area.

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Old 12-09-2017, 01:21 AM   #150
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Looks like the bolt carrier rubbed the paint off, does the bolt move freely and slam forward as it should? Get that buffer out of there! Ak dont need them and they can create more problems then they solve. You could always pickup a recoil spring tuning pack from that seller in the market. I just bought one, its 3 different rate springs for 20 shipped. Good deal!

Heres mine, looks and feels normal and same on a saiga i have. Just the paint worn off, the main thing is make sure the bcg isnt slamming the rear to hard.

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Old 12-09-2017, 08:30 AM   #151
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All looks normal.
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Old 12-10-2017, 03:10 AM   #152
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I hope that you are correct...

On my other AKs (Rommy, Polish and PAP M85NP), they don't have this kind of metal shaving at the receiver back-end like my new PSA AK.

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Old 12-10-2017, 06:46 PM   #153
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Hello FPK and Logan,

Would please check your PSA AK to see if your AK have this interesting wear and tear at the receiver back-end. It appears to me that my PSA AK does not have the proper heat treat. Therefore, the bold carrier has removed some metal of my receiver back-end. I installed the recoil buffer to reduce the wear and tear in that area.

I just checked mine. Not as severe as yours, but the carrier is definitely gouging out the top of the receiver. NOT just removing the paint. It's noticeably gouged and flattening the top rear of the receiver. I have never seen this on any other AKs I have. And I only have 195 rounds thru it.
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:17 PM   #154
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Last couple times I've looked at the psa site ak complete rifle section, it seems like 4 out of every 5, if not more, are blems. Where are the first line rifles? Or are they making so many mistakes that the blems out number the 100% rifles?????
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Last couple times I've looked at the psa site ak complete rifle section, it seems like 4 out of every 5, if not more, are blems. Where are the first line rifles? Or are they making so many mistakes that the blems out number the 100% rifles?????
Marketing scheme if you ask me. They sell them as blems for $20 bucks less and they sell like hotcakes.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:05 AM   #156
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Agreed it is a marketing strategy. I talked with an employee at PSA's Greenville store and he said that if an item is not selling briskly enough they will label it "Blem" and reduce the price. They move the merchandise and preserve the higher "list price" for the future if market conditions change. I've bought two blem AR15 lowers and they are perfect.
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My Tapco magazines & KCI drums now work great with my new PSA AK. I lightly filed the top area of the locking tab of my Tapco magazines & KCI drums to correct the magazine locking issue.



BUT I still have one more issue (hopefully, it's the last issue). The front adjustment block is drifting to the right while shooting. I see that there is an half-moon gap between the adjustment block and the front sight block hole. Please see the picture below where the red arrows are pointing at.
Do you have any suggestion on how to fix this issue??? Please recommend.

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You could try peening the surface of the drum but it probably won't be enough, thats horribly out of spec, you may need a new front sight block.



return that turd to Palmetto make them fix it.
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you should get ahold of palmetto, were you talking to them already about the other issues? what did they say about the extractor? I am not sure id have to measure but I was thinking about removing mine and putting on a bulgy 24mm like I did on my saiga if it will fit.
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Im with Just a Citizen. I love their products, but if they’re putting out shit like that, the best way to make sure it doesn’t happen to someone else is to make them expend the time and money to fix it.
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oh yea defiantly, probably gets expensive paying shipping 3 times on returns when they could just do it right to begin with and have someone qualified and competent in ak's doing quality control so this kinda stuff doesn't even go out the door and when found, flog the builder for passing it off in the first place.
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you should get ahold of palmetto, were you talking to them already about the other issues? what did they say about the extractor? I am not sure id have to measure but I was thinking about removing mine and putting on a bulgy 24mm like I did on my saiga if it will fit.
The fail to extract issue is very easy to fix. For now, I temporary replaced the bad extractor spring in my new PSA AK by borrowing the extractor spring from my Rommy G AK.

Since the fix for FTE issue is so easy, I plan not to send it back to PSA. Instead, I will order the PSA bolt repair kit to fix it myself. PSA won't ship me the needed parts for free. I will have to pay for the bolt repair kit. PSA will refund me the shipping cost.

Regarding the my PSA AK front sight drifting issue. Does anyone know the official measurement value of the front sight windage drum diameter???

Base on my measurement of my PSA AK windage drum, its diameter is smaller than my Polish AK (0.388 inch for PSA AK vs 0.391 inch for Polish AK), about 0.003 inch smaller.

I may have to send my PSA AK to PSA to deal with the windage drum drifting issue if I cannot figure out how to fix it. I don't comfortable to send gun back to manufacture for repair because I saw many people complaining that their guns were lost by the carrier or by the manufacture.

Should I buy another windage drum to try out? The PSA AK windage is smaller than my Polish windage drum.
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hey travinh did you get the front sight issue fixed? i took mine out yesterday and shot 300 more, total of about 700 now. had a few new mags to try out. the more i shoot this thing the more i like it, looks great with the triangle on it. wanting to get a different brake for it now. internals still looking good, this thing keeps chugging along just fine so hopefully everyone elses is to.
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hey travinh did you get the front sight issue fixed? i took mine out yesterday and shot 300 more, total of about 700 now. had a few new mags to try out. the more i shoot this thing the more i like it, looks great with the triangle on it. wanting to get a different brake for it now. internals still looking good, this thing keeps chugging along just fine so hopefully everyone elses is to.
I too love mine, but Iím having the same front sight drifting problem. A dab of super glue seems to have fixed it for now.
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My PSA AK has the following issues:

1) The muzzle break detent pin spring is very weak. It only pushes pin out less than 1/8 inch. I don't feel that the pin is strong enough to keep the muzzle break from flying down the range under heavy recoil. To fix this issue, I put the AR crush washer and tied the flash hider against the washer.

2) The front sight drum walks itself to the right while shooting. Closely inspection, the hole where the front drum go into was not drilled perfectly circle and a little too big. After I removed the drum, I can push the drum into the front sight hole half way by using my thumb. The measured of my PAS AK front sight drum diameter is .290 inch. 0.295 inch is the measurement of the diameter of my Polish AKM front sight drum. To fix this issue, I bought the Romy front sight assembly from the AKfiles member. The measurement of Romy is the same as my Polish AKM, 0.295 inch. I could not use my thumb to push the Romy into the front sight hole like I was be able to do with the PSA AK drum. I have to use brass punch and hammer to punch it in half way before I could the sight tool to fine adjust it.


3) The safety lever was very loose on PSA AK. I can easily manipulate it with my little finger. To fix this issue, I bent it in a little bit.

4) The bolt shaving off some metal at rear of my receiver right before the rear trunnion. I think that the PSA AK receiver metal is soft cause it is not fully heat treated. To stop this metal shaving, I installed the recoil buffer. I know that recoil buffer is not needed, but It works for me in this case. I will buy the 15% plus extra power recoil spring when I have a chance.


5) My side folding stock button is not fully lock the stock in place. It sticks out about 1/8 inch on the other side. If I hit the back of the receiver with my palm while holding front hand guard with left hand, the vibration will cause the stock to lightly disengage (not completely disengage). I have yet fix this issue. I will remove some metal in the stock, in the area where the locking lever hook on to the stock.


6) My PSA AK had the fail to extract issue when I took it out for the first time. To fix the issue, I order the bolt kit from PSA. It cost me 20 bucks, plus 10 bucks for shipping for a tiny package. When I compared between the new extractor and spring with the one that came with my PSA AK, I saw the issue right away. The hole where the extractor spring seat in was drilled too deep. Therefore, the spring was not long enough to give the extractor the strong tension to hook on to empty cartridge for extraction. To fix the FTE issue, I replaced both the extractor and spring.

The new extractor is the on the right.

The new extractor is the on the left.



7) While cleaning the PSA AK bolt after the second trips to the range (220 rounds totally). I discovered two issues that really worry me a lots. I hope these two new issues will not progress anymore. The bolt plug developed a mushroom type of wear (see red arrow in picture). On front trunnion, on right side (see red arrow), some metal was shaving off. Hopefully, the wear on the trunnion will not get any further.

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Another excellent example of US Ak's........smdh
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Way to many issues travinH, you should send that back to them.
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That cast trunnion could blow at any minute
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This is too many issues for a rifle that depends on the strength of the metal for proper function. Metal is obviously too soft.
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That cast trunnion could blow at any minute
They are billet according to the psa webpage.
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Mine is exactly the same.

https://imgur.com/a/5ms1e

I'm kind of getting worried now. I only have 300rnds down it. The trunnion and lug are definitely taking a beating. My receiver "gouging" issues went away after i put in a stronger recoil spring(that or it ground down enough?)

I wish PSA would chime in on here
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@logan09

It is hard to tell from looking at the picture if there is an issue. If you PM me your order number, we can e-mail you a call tag and take a look at it. If there is an issue we will repair or replace, and send it back to you. We offered this to travinh, but he declined, wanting to work on it on his own. We have an unlimited lifetime warranty on all of our firearms and parts.

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FWIW, I just broke down my PSA Liberty, with probably 500 or so rounds down the pipe. I see finish wear in all of those places, but no deformation or material scraped away. I'll keep a very close eye on it and eagerly await the findings with Logan's rifle. I'm very hopeful PSA will remain a good option.
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We appreciate your business. If you ever see any issues, don't hesitate to PM me. We stand by our products 100%. All firearms and parts have an unlimited lifetime warranty.

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