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Old 06-03-2018, 08:03 PM   #1
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Default 107cr worth sbr'ing

good after noon, im considering sbring a 107cr,104ur,107ur.... (have not purchased the host yet) I have a trust set up, several ar sbrs, and 7 suppressors, so the process isn't an issue but is a hassle with stupid prints and photos now with trusties lol (but that's a diff issue)... but from what I have been seeing is a lot of people taking the 107cr and installing an over the barrel brake or cutting barrel and perm pin on brake that makes legal 16"... My concern with leaving the standard barrel and getting an over the barrel brake (cover) is if the gun is typically over gassed because of the longer barrel...I understand the UR is a different animal and is begging to be sbr'ed.... but im not to big on the short gas system, I understand it is needed for reliability for that length barrel I guess my question are

($400) spend another $200 for a tax stamp, $200 cut/crown brake
($200)spend $200 cut/crown perm attach brake
($100) on buying over the barrel device...
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:43 PM   #2
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If you’re not going to chop it might as well get a 16 inch gun with a standard front end.
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:47 PM   #3
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I have more standard norincos/arsenals than me,wife and 3 boys can hold... Was looking for something a little diff.. even if I went the route of the 107cr with a muzzle device covered, its still OAL is 4" shorter than any of my aks with a muzzle device on it now
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Chop it and brace it
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:58 PM   #5
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The gas port is designed around the gun being chopped. Mrgunsngear has a video up saying that the recoil pre chop feels harsher than your average AK.

You know you want another SBR anyway.
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Sbr no brainer.

My question is, do most guys cut and crown the barrel themselves or take it to a gunsmith ?
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Chop it and brace it
Are you saying to create an SBR, but to put a brace on it anyways instead of a buttstock? I haven't found any brace I'd rather have than a real stock.
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Sbr no brainer.

My question is, do most guys cut and crown the barrel themselves or take it to a gunsmith ?
If you’re confident you’ll not bubba your $1200 gun seems like an easy home job.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:35 PM   #9
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Deep down yes I want to sbr it lol, just trying for once to think about it lol
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Are you saying to create an SBR, but to put a brace on it anyways instead of a buttstock? I haven't found any brace I'd rather have than a real stock.
Ahhh I forget about that dumb shit law
I build my pistols so I brace them cause fk the nfa

Yea...better sbr it or sell it buy pistol version
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:17 AM   #11
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This is what I've done with both a 107CR and 106CR now.

Chop the barrel down to 12", recrown, perm-attach extended Bulgarian 4 piece flash hider (CNC Warrior).

I did this because i wanted a 4 pc FH anyway, and when you put one on a 107CR, the OAL is close to 15" already. It didn't seem worth the hassel of an SBR just to save an inch.
What is nice about the 4 pc design is you can still remove the inner cone liner for cleaning both it and inspecting your barrel's muzzle.
Plus this way you have a great working flash hider and it does reduce the recoil going from a 16" to a 12" barrel.
So all around, win/win I feel.

Best of luck, and definitely SBR that 107UR. Same goes for the 104UR.
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If you're going to own a 107CR, the whole point is to SBR it. I really like mine, although I do regret going the SBR route to a degree because I'd like to sell it now, and it becomes a real pain in the ass to do so once it has been cut. Unless you want to be married to it, I'd recommend not doing an SBR. And, if you aren't going to make an SBR, there isn't really any resin to own a 107CR.
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Kind of my point too, well to an extent.

I still think the 107/106CR is worth it if you perm-attach a flash hider, but agree that it is pointless if left with the 16" barrel.
My 106CR especially ran much much better after it got its chop job. With the 16" it was simply overgassed and was having a few minor issues and recoil was more than it should have been.

I don't much like being married to my guns.
I was going to SBR my Micro Galil, and am now glad i didn't as i am going to put it up for sale soon.

But SBRing my 104UR was a no-brainer since I will always keep a 5.45 AKS74U clone. Just too iconic not to do so.
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If you're going to own a 107CR, the whole point is to SBR it. I really like mine, although I do regret going the SBR route to a degree because I'd like to sell it now, and it becomes a real pain in the ass to do so once it has been cut. Unless you want to be married to it, I'd recommend not doing an SBR. And, if you aren't going to make an SBR, there isn't really any resin to own a 107CR.

Just perm attach a device and sell it. Can send in letter telling atf it isn't sbr anymore, or not..either way.
Seriously, look it up. Ppl do it, its a thing
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:36 AM   #15
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It was mentioned that the CR is over gassed. I say chop 107CR’s barrel to it’s original length and enjoy it!

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Chop it and brace it
You would still need a tax stamp because it started life as a rifle
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:53 AM   #17
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Chop it. I think the extended brake looks tacky (in my opinion)
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:05 PM   #18
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I'd chop and tac weld the extended booster on it cause I hate the nfa. I like my shit off the list.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:58 AM   #20
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Wait until kvar magically finds a pallet of 107URs or 104URs . Then their is no debate. Watch out for Arsenal’s QC though . My 107UR that I purchased directly from kvar last year had a loose front sight gas combo block and the top cover pin shot itself halfway out benchrest within 60 rounds . It should be a functional rifle very soon !
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It was mentioned that the CR is over gassed. I say chop 107CR’s barrel to it’s original length and enjoy it!

yea this is what I was looking at, with that device on it, the only way I would benefit from a shorter barrel is if I had cut and threaded then installed a slant brake or none at all, other wise it would be the exact same length and I would be married to it, spent $200 more for a stamp, then not be able to cross state lines with it with out a stupid temporary approved letter from the atf approving me of crossing state lines with a legal sbr

now the 107/104UR is a total diff story that Screams SBR, I understand that
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Old 06-06-2018, 05:44 AM   #22
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any pics? how heavy is that 4pc FH? does it make it notably nose heavy? thanks
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This is what I've done with both a 107CR and 106CR now.

Chop the barrel down to 12", recrown, perm-attach extended Bulgarian 4 piece flash hider (CNC Warrior).

I did this because i wanted a 4 pc FH anyway, and when you put one on a 107CR, the OAL is close to 15" already. It didn't seem worth the hassel of an SBR just to save an inch.
What is nice about the 4 pc design is you can still remove the inner cone liner for cleaning both it and inspecting your barrel's muzzle.
Plus this way you have a great working flash hider and it does reduce the recoil going from a 16" to a 12" barrel.
So all around, win/win I feel.

Best of luck, and definitely SBR that 107UR. Same goes for the 104UR.
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This is what I've done with both a 107CR and 106CR now.

Chop the barrel down to 12", recrown, perm-attach extended Bulgarian 4 piece flash hider (CNC Warrior).

I did this because i wanted a 4 pc FH anyway, and when you put one on a 107CR, the OAL is close to 15" already. It didn't seem worth the hassel of an SBR just to save an inch.
What is nice about the 4 pc design is you can still remove the inner cone liner for cleaning both it and inspecting your barrel's muzzle.
Plus this way you have a great working flash hider and it does reduce the recoil going from a 16" to a 12" barrel.
So all around, win/win I feel.

Best of luck, and definitely SBR that 107UR. Same goes for the 104UR.


Any suggestions on where to send the 107CR to have the barrel cut-down and the muzzle device permanently attached? I live near Milwaukee.
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any pics? how heavy is that 4pc FH? does it make it notably nose heavy? thanks
A 4 piece weighs about 8oz. I run them on my full size Ak’s and have no problem. Yeah they are a few ounces heavier than a standard muzzle brake but I am sure you aren’t shouldering the rifle all day clearing buildings. On a shorter rifle it would be even less noticeable.
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CR and UR rifles only exist to be SBRs
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Any suggestions on where to send the 107CR to have the barrel cut-down and the muzzle device permanently attached? I live near Milwaukee.
CW GUNWERKS. i sent my ur there. i paid $150 for cut crown and engraving i think
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well I bought the 107cr w/triangle folder lastnight I also bought the "temporary 4.75" long booster COVER"... and I also ordered the parts for the correct 2" booster and cleaning rod... I figured I would run it a little and see how it shoots and then submit stamp if it runs good..
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I cant wait to get that bad boy in
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out of coursity anybody who has the 107/107cr muzzle cover, is it aluminum? im getting mixed messages, and if so does anybody know the weight compared to the proper booster weight? thanks in advance
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just picked mine up, mighty fine rifle, this is it compared to my also new slr-107fr, and also received my JMAC booster in, this is muzzle cover booster vs JMAC vs CNC compact comp
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im deff gonna gonna either pin and weld extended flash hider or cut and sbr it... and im leaving twards sbr!!!!!! wyt fellas, this is a bad ass feeling rifle, points great, need to get that barrel hot now
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Just recently got my 107CR as well, and was asking myself the same questions, at first was going to do the barrel shroud, then was thinking of cutting and going with the 4 piece Bulgarian flash hider and have it pinned and welded but not for sure how far back on the barrel I could cut and how it would look or perform. Really don't want to have to file a form 1 and have the extra cost and be married to the rifle. I know CNC warrior offers a longer 4 piece barrel flash hider that I think might work, and just cut it off at the gas block and thread it on directly and then have it pinned and welded also. Has anyone went with this set up and or have pics of it? Thanks.
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all the sites I have seen are sold out of the extended flash hider, as of now that is... if I went the route of cut/pin/weld I would deff use flash hider, only the shell is pin/welded, so you can still take internals out for cleaning ect.. I only bought the FAUX BOOSTER to make it look ok while I prove reliability and figure out what im gonna do with it, im pretty much for sure on 1 of 2 options

1. Cut,Weld,pin extended 4 piece flash hider
2 Cut, weld, STAMP and have a good time lol
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Will be SBR’ing as well. The barrel will be 14.25 inches beneath the 4 inch Russian attachment.
It’s sort of specialized as it has a an internal chromed baffle that vents the gasses out of a port as well as the muzzle.

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