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Old 07-18-2018, 10:52 PM   #1
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Default anyone ever make "hardtack"? aka pilot bread.

was thinking of cooking something this weekend and ran across this survival food that lasts a long long time. albeit not really the delicous meal i was thinking of cooking and still looking for ideas on that, but i would like to try making this stuff or get some to throw in the bug out bag or for in the woods. seems like a good thing to have for longterm shtf supplies.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:18 AM   #2
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Hardtack has been around for centuries. These days it's better well known as crackers.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:37 PM   #3
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Your basic hardtack recipe is flour, salt, and water. Essentially wallpaper paste with a bit of salt to flavor it.

You just add some water to the dry mix until it is a nice thick dough that's not too sticky, roll out into a 1/2" thick layer on a cookie sheet, cut into convenient sized pieces, and bake until slightly browned @ 375. Punching holes in the squares with a bamboo skewer is also recommended, lets it soften quicker when soaked in soup or whatever.

If you don't moisten it with something, you will be seeing the Dentist!
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:18 PM   #4
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:41 PM   #5
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Just throw a box of saltines in your bug out bag. Hell, those dollar stores sell them for a buck!
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:01 PM   #6
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Got no teeth , wouldn't be able to chew it .
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Yeah yeah i guess it is just that simple. Some guy on YouTube ate a civil war mre hardtack biscuit from 1863

Pretty much ive read the stuff lasts about 20-30 years or if well tooken care of 50.

Of its that simple to make and its safe and lasts a really long time I'll make some.



But crackers? Dont those go bad? Stale is one thing. Last thing you want to happen in a survival situation is getting sick eating food rations you saved for that occasion.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:55 PM   #8
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Wheat berries pretty much last forever, salt lasts forever and so does water...........

Get yourself a good hand crank mill and make it when the time comes.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:49 PM   #9
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Traditionally i doesn't have any salt added.

It should be made thin, like cracker thin.

If it is made normally, it has to be soaked to be soft enough to eat.

It is often added to soup or soaked for a long time, but you might be able to soak it or dip it into a hot drink.

Now to make it edible without soaking, you can toast it ahead of time to be very crispy, like chips, crackers or Melba toast.

This way it will crack instead of your teeth.

Maybe go really rolling pin thin and crisp toasting.

It can be stored this way, toasted, and then it will be ready to eat as-is.

For the hard to eat and thick versions, half inch thick or so, it is best to break it up or crumble it and put it in hot soup, like soup and crackers, with the crackers in the bowl of soup.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:40 AM   #10
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Got no teeth , wouldn't be able to chew it .
Just slobber on it and gum it till it softens. At least it should last you longer.
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plenty of other and better survival foods. look up pemican. very long shelf life and best of all, its extremely high in fat and protein.
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Just slobber on it and gum it till it softens. At least it should last you longer.
Definitely got a point there .
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My son makes it for our Civil War reenacting. It sucks. Make something different for your BOB other than the Ole Tooth Dullers.
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There are examples of ship's bisquits around the web with pictures of square rigged ships on them and signed and dated by seaman from those ships.Think 150+ years old.
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plenty of other and better survival foods. look up pemican. very long shelf life and best of all, its extremely high in fat and protein.
thanks for the suggestion bro, ive heard of that before ill have to look into it again. something to throw in the bug out bag or for hikin in da woods lolz.,


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There are examples of ship's bisquits around the web with pictures of square rigged ships on them and signed and dated by seaman from those ships.Think 150+ years old.
wouldnt surprise me, like i said some retard on youtube ate one from the civil war or some crap and theres a video of it.


someone elsewhere told me this is still a stable part of north korean mill infantrys rations and daily meals. damn, that suck to be them eating this shit brick biscuit food constantly. people already talking about it being like knawing on a jawbreaker. i think ill pass on this idea then
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If you are just looking for something to toss in a BOB try looking for MRE bread. The current stuff appears to simulate a slice of bread, the older stuff I have looks like they threw a lump of dough in the pouch and cooked it free-form. Surprisingly soft like bread and good tasting, and I still occasionally break into my 1980s vintage supply for a snack just to see if it is still good. Down to like a couple packs now, bummer.

Damn expensive unless you live near a base or have a family member in the .MIL who can supply you. But lasts a long time and is much more edible than hardtack. The MRE crackers are another good to go item. Not as good as some fresh ones from the store, but they are edible. They also have tortillas, but I've never tried them.
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Always traded some of my stuff like peanut butter and some more(including m&m's) for the Mexican style cheese sauce. Put it in the heater to loosen it up and put it on the bread like object. Even the plain cheese was good for me. I just preferred the Mexican cheese more. I can still power that down. Kinda like Jack in the Box taco's, it's terrible. But damn I'll eat the heck outta that. Pound cake was another I liked. Not cause it was good. I simply enjoy opening the pack and seeing that little wafer thin pack blow up to like an inch thick.

If I could find a way to make and keep long term that bread like object from the mre's, I would. I dunno about the newer versions, it's been a while for me.

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the tortillas used to be gtg. Thick and hearty. Not what you'd by at the grocery. thicker and smaller around but very edible. Unlike Jamaican pork chops, THE worst thing I've ever eaten in my entire life.
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Unlike Jamaican pork chops, THE worst thing I've ever eaten in my entire life.
Missed out on the "four fingers of death" I guess?
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For a couple years, I made it for my daughter when they covered the civil war in history class. From what she told me, was always a hit with the other kids.
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Missed out on the "four fingers of death" I guess?
Would that be something like vienna sausages or frankfurters? The dreaded "bean component" was the thing for fart contests. The "korean prostitute", er, I mean cream substitute was flammable as hell. I actually enjoyed the dried beef patty & dried pork patty. 1985 vintage MREs. Used to get as many as I could get, sell em down in the ville after Team Spirit or FTX. Korean chicks really liked oranges or bananas from the mess hall.

Pemmican recipe: dried meat, powdered in a blender. (I use old deer jerky) add dried, powdered fruit (I use persimmons. Gather after the frost or whenever they turn sweet, squish all the seeds & skins out, dry the pulp in the sun) (raisins, prunes, dried apricots, any dried fruit, powdered) add melted fat, such as bacon grease, beef fat, deer fat, whatever. Mix it all together in balls, bars, pancakes, cupcake molds, etc.

Pemmican last for 10 years or more if frozen.

Bannock, or camp bread is easy. We did this over the fire with Boy Scouts last year. Its hard to cook just right, tho. Burned on the outside, raw inside. Really gummy breadlike glue substitute.
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