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Old 06-14-2018, 01:12 AM   #1
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Default SLR107FR Prices in 2018

What would be a fair price to pay for one of these in 2018? It's strange Arsenal has had CR's back in stock but nothing yet as far as FR's.

I'm currently weighing my options and have narrowed it down to an SLR107FR I found for $1250 out the door or $1150 for a SAM7SF shipped and transferred. Both rifles are new.

Edit: the other option I've been considering is grabbing one of the WBP CG1's when they're back in stock. I'm a bit all over the place as far as choices but I'd like to keep it to "just one AK™" for the time being.

Thanks for your input.

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Old 06-14-2018, 01:29 AM   #2
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Get the sam7sf
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:33 AM   #3
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SAM7, easy choice
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:42 AM   #4
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:02 AM   #5
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Not sure about the pricing, but the SAM is a fantastic rifle. I am happy to have it as my only milled AK and prefer it over many other AK's I have shot. You wont be disappointed.
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:12 AM   #6
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If you don’t mind the length of the stock, get the SF.
It’s a well built brick shithouse AK.
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:15 AM   #7
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I would get the 107FR. It was Arsenals flagship rifle. Don't beleive they will bring it back. The price difference at LGS reflects that. If it dosent come back price will just go up. The SFs are common as house flies.
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:03 AM   #8
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SAM without a doubt.
I would not pay more for a stamped Arsenal over a milled SAM, which is their flagship.
Arsenal is well known for their milled rifles, not stamped.
Although both will hold their value, milled rifles are like a Cadillac.

I'd love to add a couple milled Arsenals back to my collection.
I do favor the R series,Classic, or UF.

Can't really lose either way.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:33 AM   #9
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for me slr-107fr all the way, im a little fella so the extra lop of the sam7sf is way to long and I cant stand the extra weight of a milled receiver about 11OZ more than the stamped... that's a good bit more... when you tie in extra length of pull, and more weight of a gun they both are big negatives for me... there are quite a few 107fr's on GB right now and kvar has sold one new every 6 days on there for around 1200 give or take..... im waiting on one right now from from the files, my stupid ffl man went on vac but having 2 triangle folder 5.45x39 and waiting on the 107fr w/ triangle folder... they are far superior in my opinion..

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Old 06-14-2018, 05:47 AM   #10
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Get the Sam. If there's any truth to the talk about them no longer coming into the US soon, this is likely your last chance to grab one for a reasonable price.

Phenomenal rifle, get the Sam
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:24 AM   #11
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Why is there always plenty of the sam SFs and sam UFs available? Because the lop is to long for most that pick one up. I would definitely recommend that you go hands on before just ordering one or you might regret it. My LGS has had one on the shelf for a little over a year now. I asked him why has he not been able to sell it? He said here try it out. No matter which way I tried to turn it or twist it I couldn't get the right sight picture and I'm well over 6ft.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:28 AM   #12
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My vote is for the Sam, both are top tier Arsenal's but I would lean on getting at least one milled AK to add to the stable. As mentioned, the milled versions are the "Cadilllac's".
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I think the Sf length is perfect. I realized itís the same length I had all my Ar stocks at.
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Why is there always plenty of the sam SFs and sam UFs available? Because the lop is to long for most that pick one up. I would definitely recommend that you go hands on before just ordering one or you might regret it. My LGS has had one on the shelf for a little over a year now. I asked him why has he not been able to sell it? He said here try it out. No matter which way I tried to turn it or twist it I couldn't get the right sight picture and I'm well over 6ft.
You nailed it. For this reason I'd go with the 107FR.
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I vote go for the milled SF
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You nailed it. For this reason I'd go with the 107FR.
There's no doubt in my mind that it's a hell of a rifle and built like tank. But the ergonomics on it are piss poor. I purchased my 107FR from the same shop 4 years ago and still love it to this day. Just watch when K VAR does there monthly 107FR on GB. Bidding goes crazy and it finishes up between 1200 and 1300. You don't have to be a firearm salesmen to figure this one out especially when a stamped receiver rifle is burying the sf in sales. A classroom of 3rd graders could figure this one out. Lol
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:31 AM   #17
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I am a major SLR107FR fan. If I could only have one AK it would be the one I chose. That said in your situation I would go for the SAM7 SF. With the SLR you would be paying $250 over list whereas you would be getting the at a $250+ discount.

I am betting that Arsenal will bring back the SLR107FR. It has been their most popular gun. It offers all the advantages of a standard AKM but with a folding stock that allows you to fold up the gun small enough to carry in a gym bag.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:34 AM   #18
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Why is there always plenty of the sam SFs and sam UFs available? Because the lop is to long for most that pick one up. I would definitely recommend that you go hands on before just ordering one or you might regret it. My LGS has had one on the shelf for a little over a year now. I asked him why has he not been able to sell it? He said here try it out. No matter which way I tried to turn it or twist it I couldn't get the right sight picture and I'm well over 6ft.
Are you talking about the SF or the UF? LGS in Butner NC?
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I guess I'm the only one that finds the hinge on the SAM7 to be completely revolting?
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Old 06-14-2018, 11:48 AM   #20
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I'm sure the SAMs are great, but if I'm going to get something heavier I'd rather have a heavier barrel too in addition to either a bulged trunnion, thicker or milled receiver, like the VEPR FM, MAK90, or OPAP. Just my preference though.
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I would take my 107fr over my sam7 if I had to keep one out of the 2. Can't go wrong with either, tho. Personal preference.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:06 PM   #22
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I have SLR107FR, SAM7SF and FM Vepr.
Vepr is the heaviest, but the most accurate, SAM7 is next (love the right side folder), SLR is the lightest, but least accurate out of the 3.

Get SAM7, I would not pay more than $1,100 for SLR107FR, OTD, NIB.
LOP on SAM7 is great for me. Trigger is AWESOME. Just as good as on a RobArms Vepr, circa 2004.

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Old 06-14-2018, 02:33 PM   #23
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm leaning towards the SAM, had the chance to look at one locally and the stock was comfortable for my frame. I was a bit surprised at the weight, it didn't feel as heavy as I thought it would but you get a nice feel of quality from the thing. That block hanging off the back has me a bit on the fence but I think it may grow on me.

Another thing I've been thinking regarding the SLR is the shallow dimples, not a big deal functionally but I've seen they have become shallower since they apparently switched subcontractors.
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I would take the SAM 7SF over the 107 FR!
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm leaning towards the SAM, had the chance to look at one locally and the stock was comfortable for my frame. I was a bit surprised at the weight, it didn't feel as heavy as I thought it would but you get a nice feel of quality from the thing. That block hanging off the back has me a bit on the fence but I think it may grow on me.

Another thing I've been thinking regarding the SLR is the shallow dimples, not a big deal functionally but I've seen they have become shallower since they apparently switched subcontractors.
Shallow dimples???? I have a 107FR I purchased about 4 years ago. It has the large impressions for strengthening the receiver. Didn't know Arsenal was no longer making there own receivers. Fake news or real news?? Lol
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I was a bit surprised at the weight, it didn't feel as heavy as I thought it would.


I think enthusiasts (in any hobby) tend to exaggerate the effects that small differences in specifications will have. I remember I guy telling me that the more "oversquare" bore and stroke of the Honda RC51 (100x63.6mm) as compared to the Ducati 996 (98x66mm) would make it too peaky to work well on the street. In the real world however the slightly shorter stroke on the Honda did not make a perceptible difference. German troops in WWII had no problem lugging around the STG44 (which is substantially heavier than a Type 3) so a mere 11oz. more between the SAM and the SLR should not make a real world difference.
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Shallow dimples???? I have a 107FR I purchased about 4 years ago. It has the large impressions for strengthening the receiver. Didn't know Arsenal was no longer making there own receivers. Fake news or real news?? Lol
Have a look at
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=106

I saw one locally that had the same shape as the ones on this post has on the left side.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=62

Fwiw the general consensus is that Arsenal only makes milled receivers in-house with the exception of stamped AK74's they stopped making decades ago (possibly under threat of lawsuit from Russia).

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Have a look at
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=106

I saw one locally that had the same shape as the ones on this post has on the left side.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=106

Fwiw the general consensus is that Arsenal only makes milled receivers in-house with the exception of stamped AK74's they stopped making decades ago (possibly under threat of lawsuit from Russia).
Roger that. Thanks for info.
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With 107crs back in stock, I wouldn’t pay over MSRP for an FR.
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See if you can find a SAM7r or an SLR 101s with the threaded barrel if you don't like the folding stock on the SAM7sf. You can always add an aftermarket folding stock to the SAM7 to fit your own personal comfort/LOP needs.
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Out of the 2, I'd pick my sam7. I like my 107FR though.
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I guess I'm the only one that finds the hinge on the SAM7 to be completely revolting?
No, you're not. I'd personally prefer a fixed stock milled than that wonky looking folder. Personal preference though.
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The folder on the 107FR is the tits. Never selling mine.
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Call me crazy but I prefer stamped AK's, I'd go with the 107.
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I would consider getting both.
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