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Old 02-14-2017, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default Riley Defense Review Thread

This thread is an attempt to keep the theory about the cheap ak's separate from any review that is posted (so they don't get buried). By all means. I will not be offended if you have a review and would like to post it bellow.

As those of you who have seen, I am doing a multi part review of this rifle. The first video is going over some of the specs. the second will be released Friday and that is the 500 round shoot. After that, I intend to break the rifle down and send it to MEL64D https://www.youtube.com/user/Mel64d to test the RC on the components.

If anyone has any questions, hopefully those of us that have experience with them will have some answers for you.


Preview for the series.




Video one.


Video Two.


Video Three


Video Four


Video Five Thanks to Mike47, for the use of a few pics. His thread can be found here.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299807

As always, leave questions. and pay attention to the other Riley Defense owners who are also doing their reviews. This will give everyone a good Idea what we are dealing with.


Video Six Special thanks to Mel64D For the Help with the Hardness test. https://www.youtube.com/user/Mel64d


Here is the first video of the 5000 round durability test of the Tactical version with the forged trunnion.


Second video of the 5000 round test.


Third of the 5000 round test.


Fourth of the 5000 round test.


Fifth of the 5000 round test.




Here are some links to the other reviews ongoing by other members.

Mike's thread. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299807

Bakwa's thread. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298317

BillyFrye904's thread http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298428

And the original thread where all of the conspiracies were concocted. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288363

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Old 02-14-2017, 08:07 PM   #2
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After you send it to Mel64D, ship it to Rob Ski for a reliable torture test! I look forward to more information on this rifle.
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:13 PM   #3
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Good luck on Robs test because there are only two possible outcomes.

Perform or die.
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Awesome. Rifle looks great. Don't care for that BHO notch cutout, would have to replace that selector.

The end of video "part 1" doesn't look promising.

Post the shooting.
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After you send it to Mel64D, ship it to Rob Ski for a reliable torture test! I look forward to more information on this rifle.
If he reaches out to me, I might be able to work something out. he would be 500 rounds ahead if he chose to.
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If he reaches out to me, I might be able to work something out. he would be 500 rounds ahead if he chose to.
You really want someone to beat up on your rifle?
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:42 PM   #7
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If he reaches out to me, I might be able to work something out. he would be 500 rounds ahead if he chose to.
Mel's tests should give you guys good idea about what you have on your hands.

Thank you, but I have no plans to touch Riley Defense rifles...
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:49 PM   #8
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Mel's tests should give you guys good idea about what you have on your hands.

Thank you, but I have no plans to touch Riley Defense rifles...
Words of wisdom.
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You really want someone to beat up on your rifle?
Honestly the only test I would want to see after mine and Mel's would be Rob's. Anything else is just shooting.
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Awesome. Rifle looks great. Don't care for that BHO notch cutout, would have to replace that selector.

The end of video "part 1" doesn't look promising.

Post the shooting.
What doesn't look promising about it? That it didn't close on a No-Go gauge or that the Tapco G2 hammer is maybe gonna rape the carrier tail a bit like it does with almost every other carrier tail it touches?
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Mel's tests should give you guys good idea about what you have on your hands.

Thank you, but I have no plans to touch Riley Defense rifles...
Yeah Rob and I didn't have plans to touch a strippers butt this past weekend at the strip club lol.Come on test one soon you've tested almost every AK rifle that's available for purchase in America.
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What doesn't look promising about it? That it didn't close on a No-Go gauge or that the Tapco G2 hammer is maybe gonna rape the carrier tail a bit like it does with almost every other carrier tail it touches?
At the end of the video it appears they were struggling to either insert or remove a magazine while on the shooting bench.
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At the end of the video it appears they were struggling to either insert or remove a magazine while on the shooting bench.
That's called a cliffhanger.
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At the end of the video it appears they were struggling to either insert or remove a magazine while on the shooting bench.
Oh ok I just went back and seen it. Looks like a scene on range days when a friend who only has ARs and is shooting an AK for the first time tries to insert or remove an AK mag lol.
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That's called a cliffhanger.
Everyone knows you're supposed to say, "Don don don...." Otherwise it's not a cliffhanger.
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Oh ok I just went back and seen it. Looks like a scene on range days when a friend who only has ARs and is shooting an AK for the first time tries to insert or remove an AK mag lol.
My favorite is when nobody seems to get. "pull back, let go!"
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My favorite is when nobody seems to get. "pull back, let go!"
I have one AR buddy in particular I have to tell this to all the time. Then when he realizes it's locked in he still taps the bottom of the mag a few times before shooting. I don't know if he is retarded or is doing it to annoy me.
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Crash and burn.
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Good luck with your commercial AK. I hope it serves you well.

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Mel's tests should give you guys good idea about what you have on your hands.

Thank you, but I have no plans to touch Riley Defense rifles...
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Good luck with your commercial AK. I hope it serves you well.



Lmao, you took my position! haha

Perfect execution none the less!
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I believe the finish on the selector can be fixed easily. Going forward, the finish on the selector will be same as the rifle so it doesn't stand out and doesn't diminish the great finish on the rifle.
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I believe the finish on the selector can be fixed easily. Going forward, the finish on the selector will be same as the rifle so it doesn't stand out and doesn't diminish the great finish on the rifle.
How about a selector without that notch but with the added shelf? Otherwise this rifle looks great.
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How about a selector without that notch but with the added shelf? Otherwise this rifle looks great.
You mean the notch that allows you to hold the bolt open? I don't really see any reason to not have it, for people who shoot at ranges or shoot in competitions that make you lock the bolt to the rear it really helps, for anyone else it doesn't really impede on anything.
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Looks like crap, doesn't function fully as a dust cover (sand, etc....) and if you're at a range it's just as easy to pop the top, whip out the spring and bolt carrier haha Much more dramatic too.
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Mel's tests should give you guys good idea about what you have on your hands.

Thank you, but I have no plans to touch Riley Defense rifles...
Riley being unwilling to discuss their own endurance tests stands out to me.
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Couldn't of said it better...This'll be interesting.
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wow that gas block looks like shit, i know most ak gas blocks are cast but why does it look so rough and have a huge ass casting seam
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Funny how they said they have nothing to do with I.O. which is probably true but it looks like they brought along their horrible build practices and specifications with them.

Another company trying to cash in on "cheap" AK's and the "Made in USA" gimmick to make a sale by competing with their former employers!!

The truth will soon come to light, it always does here on the Files.
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Riley being unwilling to discuss their own endurance tests stands out to me.
If everyone has the assumption that they are affiliated with IO. Do you really think that any of us would believe any test data they have.?
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Then when he realizes it's locked in he still taps the bottom of the mag a few times before shooting. I don't know if he is retarded or is doing it to annoy me.
Been watching too many damn Hickok45 videos.
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Still waiting for the shooting vid. If the Mag catch latch needs small sanding (assumed) im ok with that.

You guys must have forgotten Viper already stated in the other thread testing was complete and there were no serious issues.

I had to lightly sand a Yugo m92 catch to fit magpuls.

Patiently awaiting the shooting video
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Funny how they said they have nothing to do with I.O. which is probably true but it looks like they brought along their horrible build practices and specifications with them.

Another company trying to cash in on "cheap" AK's and the "Made in USA" gimmick to make a sale by competing with their former employers!!

The truth will soon come to light, it always does here on the Files.
I'd kindly ask you to point out the horrible build practices and specifications. Just to list a few significant differences to you:
We don't use the barrel as a bucking bar
We don't use a recoil buffer since our geometry is correct
We don't use a parkertized finish and the list goes on but you get the point.

Also if you watch Viper's preview along the 2nd minute mark, you'll hear him say something along the lines of this rifle is far far nicer than anything he's seen from the competitor.
Please don't take this the wrong way, we appreciate yoiur input but felt the need to clarify.
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...you guys also need to remember that just because a part checks out good on the Rockwell tester, does not mean it's the correct metal composition for the task at hand.

Only rounds pumped through the rifle will tell us that at this point.
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...you guys also need to remember that just because a part checks out good on the Rockwell tester, does not mean it's the correct metal composition for the task at hand.

Only rounds pumped through the rifle will tell us that at this point.
I might not be phrasing this question correctly but im confused.

I was under the impression the weaker the metal in some places the more prone to failure it may be just like your testing of the RAS and other variants.

Who then set a standard for the hardness of the certain components or is there one at all? Are we just going off of a certain countries blueprint or recommendation?
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