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Old 03-11-2017, 11:32 AM   #36
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I bet he posted from a smart phone with auto type ......I hate when mine does that.

I have to edit posts constantly because of grammatical errors my phone tosses in.
Same here...autocorrect sucks.
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Old 03-11-2017, 11:36 AM   #37
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Oh so you did lie.

Oh and Tim, we don't care. I think you would stick up for the devil himself if he was hawking rifles.
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Is this turning into vendors united VS buyers......???
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The lieing comment was a joke, read the full thread. And my last name is Fillers, not Sellers. If your going to comment get your facts correct first. The truth will come out soon enough, but for now I can't say anything further.
This is getting interesting
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This is getting interesting
I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark and speculate there's a pending legal action between PSA and Dave.

I thought it was crazy that a company as big as PSA would buy Dave and not have him under a non-competitive contract.

If that's not it, then PSA is still crazy as hell to buy DDI and allow the former owner to venture out into a business to compete with his old business now owned by PSA. That's Business Acquisition 101...
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DDI failed over and over again. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Maybe their efforts in the non civilian market will be more successful as that was supposedly going to be the focus of their products.
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This is getting interesting
Not really, just more BS from the Drama Queen. Who cares about these clowns at this point.
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DDI is now hated on as Dave Fuller is on the AK Files......

From my take, it means squat as most of the couch commando keyboard jockeys have not owned these rifles nor met the men personally.
Like MAC mentioned in a previous some grown men feel big and tuff when they tear down and insult others over the world wide web.....gotta love the internet haha.
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DDI failed over and over again. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Maybe their efforts in the non civilian market will be more successful as that was supposedly going to be the focus of their products.
Wasn't the civilian market suppose to be just a small segment of DDI's business according to Fillers? What military/law enforcement/jihadi would want to use a DDI AK?
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Wasn't the civilian market suppose to be just a small segment of DDI's business according to Fillers? What military/law enforcement/jihadi would want to use a DDI AK?
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Well, this an interesting thread...LOL
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Seems DDI started out impressing everyone here by fixing all the Waffen Werk AK74 issues at no charge that had been made before DDI bought out WW.
Somewhere along the way DDI became famous for it's customer service fixing subpar DDI rifles, huh ?
Then for some reason DDI imported Chinese made shot guns for which there was a limited market for. Not to mention QC issues with the shot guns surfaced.
Along came the new forged AK47 rifles that failed the Rob Ski test, twice due to poor quality extractors, cheap little part failure rendering the rifle useless.

This is my take on the DDI business venture to date. Personally, I wanted DDI to succeed where others have failed
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DDI is now hated on as Dave Fuller is on the AK Files......
Fillers, Fullers, Sellars and Spillers...

Sounds like 4 different drunks at a bar joke...
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Personally, I wanted DDI to succeed where others have failed
I wanted to see DDI succeed as well. I bought a couple of their rifles, first the Hungarian kit build and then the all American. I should have known better but really wanted to see an all American made AK that was as good or better than any commie AK. I don't think it's ever going to happen, not in my lifetime anyway. Dumping employees at Christmas was a shitty thing. Dave should open a used car dealership.
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Oh so you did lie.

Oh and Tim, we don't care. I think you would stick up for the devil himself if he was hawking rifles.
Oh please. Your internet tough guy routine gets old.
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DDI is now hated on as Dave Fuller is on the AK Files......

From my take, it means squat as most of the couch commando keyboard jockeys have not owned these rifles nor met the men personally.
Like MAC mentioned in a previous some grown men feel big and tuff when they tear down and insult others over the world wide web.....gotta love the internet haha.
The internet tough guys are the best. Always trash talking, but if they ever meet you in person they are the nicest people ever. Anonymity brings out the worst in people.
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I have a DDI hungarian.

Other than the tail being beat to shit by the harder G2 trigger everything else seems fine.
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Along came the new forged AK47 rifles that failed the Rob Ski test, twice due to poor quality extractors, cheap little part failure rendering the rifle useless.
I was never a fan of the DDI 12. I liked the Puma mostly because it is as close as I'm ever likely to get to owning a QBZ-95. Since it's basically an upscaled QBZ, I now have the ability to play around with the basic operating system and learn about it. That, to me, is fun.

Where do you think the extractors that broke came from? From what I hear, they weren't made by DDI.

Cheap sells. PSA makes guns slightly better than I.O. Inc. in my experience, and that isn't saying much. A PSA AK would be similiar in quality, IMHO, to a RAS 47. Despite this, people fall all over themselves to buy the guns as fast as they can.

In a race to the bottom you'll always have a HUGE customer base.
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I was never a fan of the DDI 12. I liked the Puma mostly because it is as close as I'm ever likely to get to owning a QBZ-95. Since it's basically an upscaled QBZ, I now have the ability to play around with the basic operating system and learn about it. That, to me, is fun.

Where do you think the extractors that broke came from? From what I hear, they weren't made by DDI.

Cheap sells. PSA makes guns slightly better than I.O. Inc. in my experience, and that isn't saying much. A PSA AK would be similiar in quality, IMHO, to a RAS 47. Despite this, people fall all over themselves to buy the guns as fast as they can.

In a race to the bottom you'll always have a HUGE customer base.

I dont know, there is another thread going on PSA. And it's not looking too good for them right now ether.


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I wanted to see DDI succeed as well. I bought a couple of their rifles, first the Hungarian kit build and then the all American. I should have known better but really wanted to see an all American made AK that was as good or better than any commie AK. I don't think it's ever going to happen, not in my lifetime anyway. Dumping employees at Christmas was a shitty thing. Dave should open a used car dealership.
Before things get out of hand, forget the Hungarian kit, forget the employees dumped at Christmas, other commie AKs and car dealerships.

Focus a moment on that all American. Have you posted anywhere performance problems? If so where. I'll go back and read them.

Please don't regurgitate the Robski extractor issue. We all know about that.

What are your experience with this rifle at the range or in the streets or in combat or where ever you put rounds through it.

Be honest! Don't make up shit to save face with your other internet commandos.
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Alot of nonsense......

The fact of the matter is this, unbiased bar none he bought one....on pure blind faith
The selling company NEEDED to prove its value and sustainability to match their claims

You say ignore Robski but, how many viable unbiased outlets can unequivocally say its quality. WITH PROOF?? So rather then attack an owner of a rifle he bought on blind faith ,why not realize the product has no evidence outside of failure, and there is nothing else out there to say otherwise.

Tell me I am wrong??
People do not ignore unbiased reviews, and to suggest it is ludicrous at best
You dont ignore the insane recalls on Ford Escapes and just buy one.....dumbasses do that

The PROOF was on them l, and the first and main tests bombed badly...2x same issue
There is no escaping that reality. Unbiased reality is unbiased reality. Now MrGnG started
A 5000 round test, but has not updated it in months beyond that 1,000 rounds....no one knows

Regardless afterwards , shortly a firesale happened which lost consumer confidence further
No name callin and internet fights needed......PROOF OF RELIABILITY is non existant

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Old 03-11-2017, 04:00 PM   #59
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Alot of nonsense......
PROOF OF RELIABILITY is non existant
Proof the rifle is a COMPLETE PIECE OF CRAP is also non existant.

How you feel about the company or its owner is not the question.
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Well right now the only unbiased evidence from a reputable outlet suggests otherwise

Until such time allows for evidence of quality from unbiased outlets that have no skin
in the game selling their rifles, it is a commercial US AK with 2 major fails against it

There is no arguing this......its pure fact.
People want to complain about reality and play victim go ahead.....facts are facts

Got nothing against the guy, or his company....just want proof
At least PSAK Gen 2 didnt fail Robs tests, so if PSA makes junk, where does DDI fall right now??

Fair question.....its rhetorical tho, because Im not goin to argue it
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DDI: We are going into production on FORGED AKS!
Us: cool lets see it...

DDI: We are making combo FSBs and side folder and underfolders, teasers on facebook!
Us: cool let's see it...

DDI: FORGED AKS NOW SHIPPING TO DISTRIBUTORS!
Us: cool let's see it...

Us: We have our AKs, now to test...
DDI: cool let's see it, one sent to RobSki!

RobSki: broken extractor guys, ~800 rounds!
Us: not cool...
DDI: we will investigate!

Us: Your extractors are fucked up and sticking out on our guns too DDI...
DDI: Standby while we assess the situation...

RobSki: Ok guys, second extractor broke! Cannot recommend...
Us: Shit...
DDI: Ok guys we have a bad batch of extractors that was left on a table and must have been thrown by mistake into some rifles...

Us: hmmm...ok...


time passes...


DDI: ok guys rumor is true, we have a big merge in the works...
Us: is it PSA?
DDI: can't say....public announcement forthcoming

week later after no public announcement-

DDI: we have partnered with PSA (and fired or let go, (but (maybe?)) relocated our 20+ employees) right before Christmas! it will benefit us both!
Us: cool, lets see it...

Us: ok guys, my side folder stock literally fell off while shoulder firing at the welds...
DDI: ... ...

PSA: We can acknowledge our partner (buy out) of DDI, and look forward to bringing a quality affordable and reliable US produced AK47 to the market, big things to come at shot show!
Us: cool lets see it...

Segway to after release...

Us: my kit is not forged like you lied and said it is and none of my furniture fits, and it is fucked!
PSA: oh, my bad, silly you, we have TIERS of AKs, you owe us $150 more dollars for what we initially promised you for $300. send us your barreled kits, and we will upgrade you (to what we promised you but lied about initially) for free in good faith.


and the beat goes on....
Yep, this sums up the entire clusterfuck.
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Cheap sells. PSA makes guns slightly better than I.O. Inc. in my experience, and that isn't saying much. A PSA AK would be similiar in quality, IMHO, to a RAS 47. Despite this, people fall all over themselves to buy the guns as fast as they can.

In a race to the bottom you'll always have a HUGE customer base.
I agree, a company that produces a constant/steady supply of blems says a lot about that company.

Ill stick with the Saigas, Veprs and Arsenals at this point.

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Seems DDI started out impressing everyone here by fixing all the Waffen Werk AK74 issues at no charge that had been made before DDI bought out WW.
DDI became popular in The Files when he came in here trashing Century. That was like throwing red meat to the sharks! Unfortunately he could not follow through with all his barroom bluster.
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Proof the rifle is a COMPLETE PIECE OF CRAP is also non existant.

How you feel about the company or its owner is not the question.
It was common knowledge that Troy Sellars was hired in May 2015 to be the man building the DDI rifles. Everyone took great comfort in that. Now he's gone. I know the Dave thinks he knows more about AK's than even Mr Kalish himself, but that has been shown to be a fallacy. Example, he had to go back and ask his "team" why his milled receivers that he said were a Bulgarian clone were in fact far from a Bulgarian clone. That thread is here somewhere.

So now, who's gonna lend credibility to DDI built rifles?

And the idea that an owners attitude doesn't affect the quality of his product is true and that's proven. But his grandiose attitude does steer me away. That joke about him lying would be funny if he were and had been totally transparent and honest with this forum. He thinks it was funny anyway.
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Before things get out of hand, forget the Hungarian kit, forget the employees dumped at Christmas, other commie AKs and car dealerships.

Focus a moment on that all American. Have you posted anywhere performance problems? If so where. I'll go back and read them.

Please don't regurgitate the Robski extractor issue. We all know about that.

What are your experience with this rifle at the range or in the streets or in combat or where ever you put rounds through it.

Be honest! Don't make up shit to save face with your other internet commandos.
Was that the one the butt stock fell off of?
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Yep, this sums up the entire clusterfuck.
I agree, the whole thing is a cluster !@#$. At this point I can't imagine anyone wanting to bring the DDI name back.
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I agree, the whole thing is a cluster !@#$. At this point I can't imagine anyone wanting to bring the DDI name back.
So they will likely kill the name and just merge it into the PSA lineup?
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Was that the one the butt stock fell off of?
Yes it was.

When did Troy Sellars break with DDI?
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So they will likely kill the name and just merge it into the PSA lineup?
I honestly don't know.
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Yes it was.

When did Troy Sellars break with DDI?
He was in on the Christmas Layoff/Merger. He posted the announcement on another board and also talked about it here. He is working in his own shop again.
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