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Old 08-29-2017, 05:41 PM   #36
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DANG!!!! almost ready to sell my pre ban 56S and buy this instead, what a nice looking piece!!
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Well hell, I did it. $1089 poorer but it should be a good addition to my little AK collection.
Congrats on good move. Once you hold it you'll be very happy you got it. It's a very good addition to you growing collection.
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Congrats to Atlantic on another great AK. The Childer's receiver and Polish markings are a nice touch.

I expect the new WBP's to be great, but I will stick with my Moressey receiver AK's, that are perfectly straight, nicely finished, and a joy to shoot.

So the new WBP's are a bit more. You won't give a shit about the little extra price when you have had years of enjoyment from the WBP.
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Just to be clear we still offer the less expensive WBP model based on the Moorrisey receiver and plastic pistol grip . The Polska model was built due to client request using the Childers Polish receiver and a laminate wood pistol grip . So there are 2 similar models with slightly different features the Base WBP Classic & the WBP Polska w/Childers Polish Rec . Working with WBP we hope to continue to expand the Polish offerings going forward & do appreciate everybody input.




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That makes sense. Geared towards the collectors a bit more. I'm honestly curious which receiver will hold up better
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Anxiously awaiting more VAF 47s.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:28 PM   #42
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Your brakes will be fine, buy the rifle. Embrace the disease it's futile to resist...
I think im gonna have embrace the disease.
Damn Atlantic for comming out with a sexy rifle...again
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Wait, I just noticed the "C" and "P" selector markings...WTF, I don't speak Polish.
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If these had the vented gas tubes and black-finished carriers like the DIY Moressey kits had then this would be just about perfect. Although, in fairness, the DIY kits' description did say that the type of tube may vary.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0

Perhaps these variations are being considered for the subsequent offerings Atlantic alluded to a few posts up. Since they're calling this the "CG1" there's bound to be a "CG2", etc. Maybe even a "reverse CG?" Question: would the "reverse CG" version requite a reverse dong?

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Wait, I just noticed the "C" and "P" selector markings...WTF, I don't speak Polish.
I think "P" means "pew" and "C" means "continuous pew"?
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Vented gas tubes aren't an issue for me they're a quick easy fix. Black or nickel carriers don't matter to me either. What does matter is the quality of the build and one thing for sure that stands out on the WBP's is quality, big time.
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We agree on all of the above.

I'm just a tool kinda guy, I don't see an AK "worth" over $1,000, as compared to the deflated gun market where I can buy 2 WASR's
that will do the job just as well. Especially a non-combloc parts kit built gun here in the USA. For me, that's 2 WASR's, or a SAIGA
for less with minimal updating.

WASR Canted sights, minimal issue. I would better spend the money on a 6.5 Grendel or 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with that same $1000.
I just do not see the usefulness, but that's because I'm a tool kinda guy, not a collector. $1000 parts built AK's did not hold value to
me in a panic market, and I don't see it in a Trump slump either. It's way out of touch.

We are all very different in that regard.
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This is also being discussed in the Atlantic Firearms sub forum. Looks like they are currently working on a WBP, Morrissey, Russian Red version.
No thanks. Russian red only belongs on a Russian rifle. Saiga or VEPR. I like the Polish Furniture on the WBPs.
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Well hell, I did it. $1089 poorer but it should be a good addition to my little AK collection.
Good deal. It's nice. I may get one also. I like my current WBP a lot.
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I cant decide if i should get that rifle oooooooorrr fix the brakes on my car......my brakes will be fine, right? A rifle is more important.
Brakes are cheap. Just buy some pads at Discount Auto and put them on.
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Wait, I just noticed the "C" and "P" selector markings...WTF, I don't speak Polish.
LOL. That was funny!!!!!!!!!
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No thanks. Russian red only belongs on a Russian rifle. Saiga or VEPR. I like the Polish Furniture on the WBPs.
I agree!
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Throw a polish FCG and pistol grip in it and your good to go.
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Thinking about picking up another Arsenal SLR-107R, for my wife, but this one has my eye. I am a big Arsenal fan, but would you guys that have both the WBP and the SLR-107R, recommend one over the other? I typically like factory combloc rifles, but these look awesome and well done. I already have another SLR-107R Plum and was thinking about grabbing a second so my wife and I have the same setup, but if this is the superior rifle I may sell the other SLR-107R and buy two of these. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Thinking about picking up another Arsenal SLR-107R, for my wife, but this one has my eye. I am a big Arsenal fan, but would you guys that have both the WBP and the SLR-107R, recommend one over the other? I typically like factory combloc rifles, but these look awesome and well done. I already have another SLR-107R Plum and was thinking about grabbing a second so my wife and I have the same setup, but if this is the superior rifle I may sell the other SLR-107R and buy two of these. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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That WBP is a much nicer rifle, but of course you said it. It's not combloc but has brand new combloc parts.
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These parts have been available for well over a year now. Not sure why this is a new rifle. Built one in this configuration when the WBP parts first showed up on AoA site. Not forged parts but no issues to date with the cast trunnion and have roughly 2500 through it. Paid close to $750 complete plus the time involved to build it when the kits cost $389. Solid rifle indeed, wouldn't pay that price though.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:18 AM   #59
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I want one so bad. I held my breath on the previous WBP's albeit they looked great but I prefer combloc rifles. Yet seeing these new ones on Childers makes it hard to not order one. The only reason I haven't ordered one is because of the price. That's pushing sam7 territory or an sa93 conversion. I love milled but at the same time, they aren't WBPs. Decisions decisions...
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I want one so bad. I held my breath on the previous WBP's albeit they looked great but I prefer combloc rifles. Yet seeing these new ones on Childers makes it hard to not order one. The only reason I haven't ordered one is because of the price. That's pushing sam7 territory or an sa93 conversion. I love milled but at the same time, they aren't WBPs. Decisions decisions...
If it helps, that RADOM Barrel on the WBP is top notch.
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I want one so bad. I held my breath on the previous WBP's albeit they looked great but I prefer combloc rifles. Yet seeing these new ones on Childers makes it hard to not order one. The only reason I haven't ordered one is because of the price. That's pushing sam7 territory or an sa93 conversion. I love milled but at the same time, they aren't WBPs. Decisions decisions...
My humble opinion is, if you're going to shell out the dough, buy comblock while you still can.
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The $899 WBP is a much nicer rifle then the Arsenal offerings made by drunken Bulgarians.

This is not my opinion, it's repeating what several owners of both have stated.

If I was in the market, I'd buy the $899 WBP rifle.

This new one for $160 more offers no magical pixie dust over that one IMO.

In truth tho......I'd still seek out a SAIGA over any of them
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The $899 WBP is a much nicer rifle then the Arsenal offerings made by drunken Bulgarians.

This is not my opinion, it's repeating what several owners of both have stated.

If I was in the market, I'd buy the $899 WBP rifle.

This new one for $160 more offers no magical pixie dust over that one IMO.

In truth tho......I'd still seek out a SAIGA over any of them
There is no $899 Polish rifle currently. The cheaper one is $959 and the new one is $1059.
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Atlantic is killing it with these Polish guns. Keep up the good work guys.

But I would still wait and buy the SLR-107 while they are available all things being equal. The SLRs are about $100 cheaper (when they are available) and they have "made in another country" stamped on the side. That may or may not mean anything to you though. Certainly both rifles are fine examples of AK rifles. You can't go wrong either way.
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There is no $899 Polish rifle currently. The cheaper one is $959 and the new one is $1059.
My error

The price was apparently increased in 2017 from what was $850 at one point iirc
Its gettin stupid in this market

I would buy the Arsenal.....or seek out a 107FR
At least it will hold value for the buyer
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These parts have been available for well over a year now. Not sure why this is a new rifle. Built one in this configuration when the WBP parts first showed up on AoA site. Not forged parts but no issues to date with the cast trunnion and have roughly 2500 through it. Paid close to $750 complete plus the time involved to build it when the kits cost $389. Solid rifle indeed, wouldn't pay that price though.
This rifle has a forged front trunion, not cast like your rifle.
That along with the CHF chrome lined barrel and the Polish marked Childers receiver
makes this rifle so difficult to pass up on.

I have the WBP Classic and that rifle is clearly better in form and finish than my SLR107R.
Given the choice of one over the other I would pass on the SLR107R
Like it or not they are both assembled in the US with combloc and US made parts to be 922 compliment.
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My error

The price was apparently increased in 2017 from what was $850 at one point iirc
Its gettin stupid in this market

I would buy the Arsenal.....or seek out a 107FR
At least it will hold value for the buyer
I have to agree. the AR market is plummetting like a stone. I can build a great rifle for $500, but the AK market has been steadily climbing, even in a trump market! (sans WASR price drips along with N-Pap price drops)
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Man, that is nice! If I wasn't so broke from going on a AK buying spree, I would be inclined to add this to the stable.
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Like it or not they are both assembled in the US with combloc and US made parts to be 922 compliment.
Atlantic just does it better.
No, that's actually not true. One of them (SLR-107) is assembled in another country and only finished in the US to make them 922R compliant.
The other one(Polish WBP ) is completely assembled and finished in the US.

That's why one has "made in Bulgaria" stamped on the side of it and the other doesn't because its not imported. Unless of course your subjectiveness is gonna re-write what constitutes a US made rifle from a foreign one now.
And if that's the case I'm sure all importers will love the fact that they no longer have to abide by the 922R law or even import guns at all because apparently they are all the same now according to you.
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No, that's actually not true. One of them (SLR-107) is assembled in another country and only finished in the US to make them 922R compliant.
The other one(Polish WBP ) is completely assembled and finished in the US.

That's why one has "made in Bulgaria" stamped on the side of it and the other doesn't because its not imported. Unless of course your subjectiveness is gonna re-write what constitutes a US made rifle from a foreign one now.
And if that's the case I'm sure all importers will love the fact that they no longer have to abide by the 922R law or even import guns at all because apparently they are all the same now according to you.
I agree the receiver on my SLR107R says "made in Bulgaria"
However you need to read Arsenals own description of where the rifle is manufactured. http://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/SLR-107R.html

"The 7.62x39 caliber SLR-107R is a top notch, stamped receiver, semi-automatic modern sporting rifle manufactured in Las Vegas, Nevada, utilizing only the best and authentic Arsenal factory components. It is manufactured with a Bulgarian made Arsenal mil-spec 1mm stamped receiver and cold hammer forged and hard chrome lined barrel. The authentic US made components, such as the anti-slap double stage trigger group, mil-spec polymer stock set, Warsaw length polymer buttstock to perfectly complete this rifle for unparalleled quality and accuracy. "

Say what you want... I'm just quoting what Arsenal itself says.


Guys, I'm not bashing Arsenal, Hell, I own 3 of them.
Two Sam7's and the SLR107R.
There is however a substantial difference in the fit and finish of the SLR107R compared to the WBP and the imported Sam7's. I can't speak of others, however based on the SLR107R and WBP rifles that I own, IMHO the WBP is the better value.
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