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Old 09-01-2017, 05:55 PM   #106
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Minus the receiver, you can have a all combloc gun if you want, the new polish radom barrel makes these offerings IMO, all appeal would be lost for me if it was a U.S barrel.


I hope we see more stuff from WBP.
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
Really???
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Old 09-01-2017, 06:44 PM   #109
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
lets see it!
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
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Yes... Lets see it! Mine is on a cross country ride, and will be another week before I can even look at it!


Edit: What FCG came with it? I assume G2?

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Old 09-01-2017, 09:28 PM   #112
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Yes... Lets see it! Mine is on a cross country ride, and will be another week before I can even look at it!


Edit: What FCG came with it? I assume G2?
yup, G2 from what other people have said who just got it
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:42 PM   #113
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I puchased the WBP classic at full price when it first released with a forged trunion, I could have purchased any AKM and had built up funds to buy what I felt was the best, Arsinal, Vepr etc. I had stalked the forums for key information and studied up on each rifle. Although WBP had no real history the old school appeal grabbed me, the coating treatment, barrel and furnature stood out. When I received it I was even more impressed.

Just a note, Some companies have touted how awesome their AKM's are and have fallen off the map due to complications they never properly addressed.the Atlantic WBP never made any claim to catch anyone's attention, they listened and created a good gun with the right parts, great barrel, good finnish, sweet furnature, nice rivets, then they heard "We need FORGED trunions!" So they gave it to us. Now it's "it must have a Childers reciever!" Well we got that too.

To those who say
"We'll it's not a true Com block gun and will never hold its value"
"It's too expensive for what it is!"

Let's be honest, It's already commanding the prices close to the best AKM's on the market without really any promotion except that from actual owners who say it's nicer than the perceived best on all the AK forums with little disagreement from people who know a hell of a lot more about Ak's than most. If their reputation stays high like it currently is so will their value.

The guys at WBP and Atlantic built a gun and let it speak for itself, They listened and gave us exactly what we wanted and in top form. Have you noticed not one owner has complained about the cost? I paid more than most and still got a good deal.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:32 AM   #114
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I really don't know what there would be to complain about? I mean, its the American civie gun community, so we obviously will find 'something but realistically?


Polish guns have always impressed me. From the beginning, the circle11 Radom factory put a lot into their guns. Honestly more than Russia or Bulgaria, especially in the bluing and wood departments.
Good god, I am blind and even I think Radom's early bluing jobs are pretty.

Even the factories more recent guns like the Tantal and Beryl have continued to impress me. Heck, it was the Archer that forced me to change my mind reguarding 5.56/.223 chambered AKs (to be fair, my first experiences were with an SAR-3).
And where did that first Archer of mine come from? Atlantic.

The only reason I am not jumping to buy a WBP right now is that I already own a nice Polish AKMS built with orig barrel and matching # kit. Want to guess where that one came from? haha

The Polish AKM barrels coming in now are a godsend too. For any build, they are now my go-to. At the moment, I have a couple East German MPI-KMs half assembled and using them. Ditto for a Russian kit.
And if I ever find a Hungarian AKM-63 kit, it'll get mated up with one too.

I am an AK purest, no question but come on, what's really the difference between a CHF+chromed barrel made in Poland vs. Russia, Bulgaria, Hungary, or Germany? Quality is the same and the barrel wasn't serialized on original guns in the first place.


And unlike I.O., everything here with WBP is 100% open and clear. Who here remembers those Polish guns I.O. was selling a few years back? They said they were Radom mfg....well yeah but as it turned out, not FB, Radom but a different company, Pioneer Arms which is also in the town of Radom.
Worse though, many of I.O.'s rifles supposedly built over there, were actually assembled here by them. They only used Radom receivers and parts. They kept all that quiet and were hiding where things were actually from.

Not Atlantic or WBP. Its all out there and freely shared with us.
Honesty is a big plus in my book.
Not saying there might not be mistakes made, and I am sure Atlantic will turn out a lemon now and again....it happens in manufacturing.
But i bet they would also own up to any mistake made and do what was required to make it right.
How many other AK companies do you think would really go the extra mile for the customer these days?
So the only thing maybe to complain about is the price.....but even that's not too crazy. A lot of good builds are $900-$1,200 these days. Heck even the original Waffen Werks guns (still on NDS) were $700-$800 and that was a long while back.

oh and in my book, instead of using '-' now, i just use 'IO' hehe.

One day here, i'll have to try out one of the WBP Classics I think. Just right now too many projects and not enough free money.
I did get to really dig into my Russian AKM on Childers today..very impressed with it so far. Hoping to get some serious range time in here very soon.
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I will admit, I am somewhat new to the AK world. Always had an interest, and tried to keep up on basic knowledge of some of the more standard AKs out there. Reading around this forum, and other online sources, it's clear as day that anyone asking this kind of money will have to put their product where their mouth is. When you look at the big picture, Atlantic has been around a long time, so personally, I feel comfortable with this purchase. I just don't see Atlantic asking this kind of price, knowing damn well that the "community" will expose any kind of short coming in this rifle if they weren't positive that the gun would live up to what they advertised.

I will admit, there is something extra cool about an old parts kit build, but this gun, in my worthless opinion, brings something different to the market.


Now I just continue to wait until mine comes in late next week.
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
And for those that wanted pics, here it is:



These pictures do not do this rifle justice; fit and finish are absolutely perfect.
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And for those that wanted pics, here it is:



These pictures do not do this rifle justice; fit and finish are absolutely perfect.
Hey look...
He actually did buy the rifle he claimed to.
Your evidence is sufficient. Congrats... you have a very nice AK.
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Yes... Lets see it! Mine is on a cross country ride, and will be another week before I can even look at it!


Edit: What FCG came with it? I assume G2?
Yes, it's the G2.
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Ordered mine on Tuesday & picked it up today; very pleased with the quick shipment. The WBP looks great, can't wait to shoot it. This is my second AK purchase from Atlantic and both transactions have been outstanding.
Yep once you hold it you know what a great deal it is. Gets better when you shoot it.
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man, thats a pretty gun. atlantic has really stepped up their game.
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man, thats a pretty gun. atlantic has really stepped up their game.
Their game has been pretty good for awhile! I bought my Polish Premium and Classic a couple years ago when they were essentially producing these same builds with original Polish parts kits. Their build quality is hands down better than anything else in the same price range.
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Hey look...
He actually did buy the rifle he claimed to.
Your evidence is sufficient. Congrats... you have a very nice AK.
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We have been very pleased with the quality of the new production WBP Polish parts. They are a bit more expensive but are starting to see them being used in builds by other vendors. If anybody is looking for WBP parts for their own build you can locate them @ Arms of America. They also offer a wide selection of barrels , receivers etc & are good guys to work with .


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I 2nd that.

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We have been very pleased with the quality of the new production WBP Polish parts. They are a bit more expensive but are starting to see them being used in builds by other vendors. If anybody is looking for WBP parts for their own build you can locate them @ Arms of America. They also offer a wide selection of barrels , receivers etc & are good guys to work with .


This is precisely why I just bought my second WBP from Atlantic. Didn't really need it, it's number 13 (yes I do have the disease big time) , but 8 years ago I wanted a few AK's and my focus was on quality. Was away from the AK scene for almost 3 years and dove into M1A's and last October got back to AK's to get one for my wife. I was shocked at the prices and what I considered dwindling availability of good quality guns. I decided on a SAM7R 61 for the wife and because of the election panic ordered one for myself since the vendor had 2 on the shelf. Post election panic has subsided but the market for quality and availability hasn't really improved and I'm not optimistic it ever will. That's why I'm really thankful and impressed with Atlantic and WBP stepping up their game to bring excellent quality AK's to the market and backing up what they sell with excellent customer service. Just my $0.02 for what it's worth.
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This is precisely why I just bought my second WBP from Atlantic. Didn't really need it, it's number 13 (yes I do have the disease big time) , but 8 years ago I wanted a few AK's and my focus was on quality. Was away from the AK scene for almost 3 years and dove into M1A's and last October got back to AK's to get one for my wife. I was shocked at the prices and what I considered dwindling availability of good quality guns. I decided on a SAM7R 61 for the wife and because of the election panic ordered one for myself since the vendor had 2 on the shelf. Post election panic has subsided but the market for quality and availability hasn't really improved and I'm not optimistic it ever will. That's why I'm really thankful and impressed with Atlantic and WBP stepping up their game to bring excellent quality AK's to the market and backing up what they sell with excellent customer service. Just my $0.02 for what it's worth.
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Very nice!
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Atlantic has listened to and provided the AK community with some really great choices. I know they can't build everything for everyone but here is an idea worth considering.

A WBP parts AK, some on Childers receivers and some on Morissey receivers, that are complete and finished, except for the FCG, furniture, and muzzle break. The buyer could then finish the AK by adding those parts. There would be a difference in price between the two as I would suppose there is a difference in cost depending on the receiver.

One can dream, right?

Added: This would make the purchase price less for people new to AK's or those on a very limited budget, and allow them to add parts as their funds become available. Also, I think a lot of AK folks want to make their AK's to their liking and this would appeal to them.
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BillyDonk, How do you like the Beryl style set up ?
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I know I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but why can't WBP just sell a complete gun to the U.S.? Refresh my memory as to why they can only send us parts and not complete firearms? I remember the Beryl Archers used to be imported by IO, then they stopped and now I just see kit builds. For some reason I just never heard of nor could I find the story as to what happened?
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I know I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but why can't WBP just sell a complete gun to the U.S.? Refresh my memory as to why they can only send us parts and not complete firearms? I remember the Beryl Archers used to be imported by IO, then they stopped and now I just see kit builds. For some reason I just never heard of nor could I find the story as to what happened?
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I was hoping someone would answer it...

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I know I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but why can't WBP just sell a complete gun to the U.S.? Refresh my memory as to why they can only send us parts and not complete firearms? I remember the Beryl Archers used to be imported by IO, then they stopped and now I just see kit builds. For some reason I just never heard of nor could I find the story as to what happened?
ATF being there usual out of control selves is why, they denied everything that Radom USA submitted to be imported from Radom, the owner shut the company down after that.


WBP/Atlantic might be working on importing assembled rifles, which would be a absolute godsend, but the Radom USA situation isn't exactly hope raising,lot of work just to be blown out of the water by the ATF for no reason whatsoever,even if what you submit is perfectly importable according to the law, which brings us back to the ATF doing whatever they want,when they want, and nobody is going to stop them.
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I knew it was ATF, but don't understand their official BS excuse??

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WBP/Atlantic might be working on importing assembled rifles, which would be a absolute godsend, but the Radom USA situation isn't exactly hope raising,lot of work just to be blown out of the water by the ATF for no reason whatsoever,even if what you submit is perfectly importable according to the law, which brings us back to the ATF doing whatever they want,when they want, and nobody is going to stop them.
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We are not going to go into exact details but let's just say they were less than reasonable on approving new import items that were based on the way Others bring in rifles. The Old standards of sporting rifle approval seem to have been pushed to the extreme. That does not mean we will not see New approvals granted in the future however it may increase the time and cost and decrease the features of the item. Ted Marshall struggled with this for 2 or more years & eventually had to give up due to the road blocks. The good news is WBP is continuing to expand their parts offering to the US . With WBP Quality parts, Radom Hammer Forged barrel and a Skilled builder it can yield a rifle on par or even possibly better than some imports.
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I knew it was ATF, but don't understand their official BS excuse??
The thing is, they don't have to give an excuse. All they have to do is stamp "NO" on the paperwork and it's all over. A bunch of BS is what it is.
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The thing is, they don't have to give an excuse. All they have to do is stamp "NO" on the paperwork and it's all over. A bunch of BS is what it is.
Gotta send a $25,000 check along with that paperwork...
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I don't think I can resist anymore. I know it's pricey but it's so pertty. Damnit Atlantic!
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The thing is, they don't have to give an excuse. All they have to do is stamp "NO" on the paperwork and it's all over. A bunch of BS is what it is.

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