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Old 11-05-2017, 10:57 PM   #1
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This is about all of the picture advertisements in this issue. I hope you enjoy this trip back in time.




































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Old 11-05-2017, 11:03 PM   #2
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Great post. Trip down memory lane.
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I would say those were the days.....

But honestly right now might actually be better. I remember thumbing through those as a youth wishing I was 18 and had the money to buy them.

Fast forward to now, I am 40 and I am a kid in a candy store.

Thanks for the post though, I have a little pile of adds in my file cabinet from the last 10 years or so. I will post them here on the files when I am in my 60s
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This was 29 years ago and a lot of countries were not in the game yet.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:19 PM   #5
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To think of the $$$ I wasted in my youth on dumb shit. Should have been stockpiling AKs.
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I noticed in an adjoining advert, NIB Colt Gold Cup NMs were only $499.

Bakes were $35 each.

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We are in the "days of the AR" at the moment. Take advantage. Love seeing those adds.....simpler times.
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1100 rounds of 7.62x39 for $109. I like that!
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With the cumulative inflation rate since 1988 being 108%, it's interesting that magazines and ammo isn't that much different today - aside from the additional collector's value of difficult-to-obtain items.

So the mighty WASR at ~$530 is (aside from being non-chicom) basically the same deal.
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I find the Yugos that that were available then interesting. You do not see many preban Yugos come up for sale as often as the Chinese ones. I guess not as many were imported. Then all the Yugos were gone for a long time, but they started to come back in later.
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I am glad someone mentioned inflation.
If you do the math, some stuff is actually cheaper today than it was 30 years ago.
And of course, there were no Russian AKs of any type or style on the market back then.
Also no Bulgarians, Polish, or Romanians.
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$269 1988 money was a helluva lot more than $269 today money. Exactly why I feel like bitch slapping the fools that say today's AKs cost too much.
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And I just scored a new NPAP DF for $599 from Atlantic! Awesome deal!
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$269 1988 money was a helluva lot more than $269 today money. Exactly why I feel like bitch slapping the fools that say today's AKs cost too much.
Well it depends on how one looks at things.
One can get a WASR for $550 and its gonna have the same canted sights with shitty finish as AK's twice the price. Whos the fool?

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I am glad someone mentioned inflation.
If you do the math, some stuff is actually cheaper today than it was 30 years ago.
And of course, there were no Russian AKs of any type or style on the market back then.
Also no Bulgarians, Polish, or Romanians.
I remember looking threw issues of Shotgun News back in the late 80's.
I totally remember seeing those ad's from J&G Sales and the others.
To this day i kick myself for selling my AK to get a Colt A2 HBAR.
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Remember too that spare parts were actually very difficult to find back then, and you couldn't just hop online to get mags or accessories either.
Plus even finding 7.62x39 could be problematic depending on where you lived and what your particular LGS stocked.

There just wasn't the AK community back in the '80s or even '90s.
Outside of Chinese, the other AKs were not cheap: Cassner SA 85m, Steyr Maadi ARM, and of course the Finnish Valmets.

Most of the other preban guns were really expensive then too: Steyr AUG, SIG SG550, FAMAS, Beretta AR70, FN FNC, and so on..pretty damn spendy.
Even the SP1 wasn't what you'd call cheap.
The Armalite AR180 was about the best deal going outside of Chicom AKs.
Early on, the HK91 and HK94 were pretty affordable too, at least compared with FN's offerings at the time.
Springfield was selling some pretty neat stuff, and its prices were reasonable: Beretta BM59, Imbel SAR48, and Greek SAR3 come to mind.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:32 AM   #18
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I paid $313.95 out the door for my first Chicom back in the 80's and I still have it today.
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Great post OP. Interesting that x39 ammo was .10 cents per round in 1988, adjusted for inflation it comes to .21 cents per round in 2017 dollars/cents. Not much actual change.
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Hey Guys!

Those are dealer prices in a time before internet transfers.

The shop I worked at charged 10% of the cost of the firearm plus shipping to special order it, cash in advance.

We used a 24% profit margin on stocking firearms. So...

An AK that cost $289.95 would sell retail for $385.95 in a stocking dealer using standard industry mark up.

Using a inflation calculator, that retail price is $800.50 in today’s dollars.
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Paul Harvey - "And that folks, is the rest of the story"
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Using a inflation calculator, that retail price is $800.50 in today’s dollars.
I used inflation calculator on some old 7.62 ammo prices listed in some ads like these and it turns out ammo is actually cheaper in [the current year].

A $200 NFA stamp in 1934 would be the equivalent of $3,739.68 today.

Thanks, Federal Reserve banking and Quantitative Easing!
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To think of the $$$ I wasted in my youth on dumb shit. Should have been stockpiling AKs.
I spent mine on cars, so at least it was fun.
Wish I caught the bug sooner.
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I find the Yugos that that were available then interesting. You do not see many preban Yugos come up for sale as often as the Chinese ones. I guess not as many were imported. Then all the Yugos were gone for a long time, but they started to come back in later.
Well, they kinda had their hands full for most of the 90s.
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And to think I didn't want a commie peice of shit AK back in the day. I didn't appreciate the AK till about 3 years ago.
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Those prices are NEVER TO RETURN.
Enjoy torturing yourselves.
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I recently sold one of my old Chicom's for $2800 to use the money towards my PTR44. I still grin every time I think about my dad telling me in the 80's that I was "wasting my money on that Chinese junk".
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In addition to AK's the Chinese also built repo's and exported to the US;

SKS
Browning Hi Power
Uzi
M1A
Tokarev
Makarov
1911 (Norinco)
Browning .22 auto rifle (copy)
Walther Target pistol (Olympia)

These are the ones I remember from the 1980's. I owned all of these new at one time except the M1a. Alas, I sold most of them over the years at a nice profit. Quality was spotty on some such as the Uzi and Tokarev. Never actually fired the Olympia but it looked a bit suspect.

The 1911 was exceptional as was the Makarov.
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In addition to AK's the Chinese also built repo's and exported to the US;

SKS
Browning Hi Power
Uzi
M1A
Tokarev
Makarov
1911 (Norinco)
Browning .22 auto rifle (copy)
Walther Target pistol (Olympia)

These are the ones I remember from the 1980's. I owned all of these new at one time except the M1a. Alas, I sold most of them over the years at a nice profit. Quality was spotty on some such as the Uzi and Tokarev. Never actually fired the Olympia but it looked a bit suspect.

The 1911 was exceptional as was the Makarov.
I still have my 1911 norinco, shoots like a champ.
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Ah, the good old days! I was 22 years old and loving all the cheap imports!
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In addition to AK's the Chinese also built repo's and exported to the US;

SKS
Browning Hi Power
Uzi
M1A
Tokarev
Makarov
1911 (Norinco)
Browning .22 auto rifle (copy)
Walther Target pistol (Olympia)

These are the ones I remember from the 1980's. I owned all of these new at one time except the M1a. Alas, I sold most of them over the years at a nice profit. Quality was spotty on some such as the Uzi and Tokarev. Never actually fired the Olympia but it looked a bit suspect.

The 1911 was exceptional as was the Makarov.
I would have tried the 9mm Tokarev, simply for being a better caliber than the freaking lazer that is my TTC. But for Makarovs, you can't beat a Bulgarian!
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I love these threads, where 10-15% of the people understand the concept of inflation.
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And only one ad referred to it as an Assult Rifle.
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I would have tried the 9mm Tokarev, simply for being a better caliber than the freaking lazer that is my TTC. But for Makarovs, you can't beat a Bulgarian!
I actually liked my East German the best of my Maks, but I never owned a Bulgarian to compare.
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I love these threads, where 10-15% of the people understand the concept of inflation.
Well a Rommy was under $250 15 years ago and mist things didn't go up as much as they are now.
Parts kits were $50 and up for AK'S with a barrel

A good AR was well over a grand then.
not evert hung here is simple inflation.

Back rgen nit many people wanted a AK and it was not a hipster rifle like today.

Some were I have some adds for Sten kits at $19 from about 17 years ago. I bought two just to see what they were.
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