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Old 11-07-2017, 03:34 PM   #36
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That's not a lot of rounds at all.
6-7 "K". What a big difference a letter can make.

Six to Seven Thousand Round Count.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:37 PM   #37
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I have 2015 of both, they are both good guns. I know there are some debates about it, but my NPAP is the last of the three rivet guns, while some of the problems and cracks that have shown up have two.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:39 PM   #38
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WASR all the way. I have mine set up right now with Bulgarian plum polymer, bakelite grip, type 84 flash hider, and ((10)) mags loaded up with Yugo M67. It's a sweet, light weight little unit.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:43 PM   #39
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:22 PM   #40
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:55 PM   #41
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Own two Yugos (NPAP & OPAP). Go WASR. Better parts and takes AKM furniture.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:05 PM   #42
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I would take a look at a Riley. I did what you are doing and made mine the poly version with MOE stock, fore grip. I have about 1500 rounds through it and I've been very happy.
Plus it's cheaper than a WASR by a few bucks to go to the add-ons.
I think Riley has cast front trunion, wasr is forged. Big difference
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:57 PM   #43
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:02 PM   #44
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:09 PM   #45
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SAR-1 Best of Both worlds.....Hands Down........
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:43 PM   #46
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I have 2015 of both, they are both good guns. I know there are some debates about it, but my NPAP is the last of the three rivet guns, while some of the problems and cracks that have shown up have two.
My older NPAP was also the 3 rivet design, I had well over 5,000 rounds through the pipe on that dirty Whore. It was a great rifle, I am at this time looking for another NPap or Opap if I can find one. But only the one Npap with the 3 rivets in the rear trunion area.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:45 PM   #47
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I also now have a Wasr 10, great rifle for the money. I do like that the Wasr takes standard AKM furniture but my Npap just felt like it was built like a tank. Also now there is a lot of furniture options for the Npap today.
If I would be looking for a AK rifle today it would either be the Npap or the Wasr.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:55 PM   #48
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I think Riley has cast front trunion, wasr is forged. Big difference
Riley started out with cast front trunnions but now they are forged. Price only went up like $30 with the switch.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:17 PM   #49
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I really do hope that Riley succeeds but right now I just couldn't buy one of those over an import like a WASR or even a used SAR 1.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:24 PM   #50
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Should I get a second WASR or an NPAP?
You should get the WASR 10/63 UF that's on gunbroker. 1968 innards and about 7 minutes to go ....
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:54 PM   #51
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Second WASR

I own a NPAP but I honestly would never get another Yugo
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:01 PM   #52
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I think Riley has cast front trunion, wasr is forged. Big difference
Riley are forged.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:06 PM   #53
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My older NPAP was also the 3 rivet design, I had well over 5,000 rounds through the pipe on that dirty Whore. It was a great rifle, I am at this time looking for another NPap or Opap if I can find one. But only the one Npap with the 3 rivets in the rear trunion area.
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I have 2015 of both, they are both good guns. I know there are some debates about it, but my NPAP is the last of the three rivet guns, while some of the problems and cracks that have shown up have two.
That is what I've seen so far, mine is a 3 rivet design as well. However, I prefer the standard ak design, even though I leave them dressed in wood. Wasr, or a good M70ab2...
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:38 PM   #54
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WASR- the more whores the better
CG1 WBP if you prefer and can afford a call girl
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:03 AM   #55
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I've got a synthetic, thumb hole stock N-Pap and a Wasr 10 that I bought probably 2 years ago. I think they're both good rifles and I really like them both, but I probably only have 500 rounds through each of them. If you're looking for one rifle to carry you through 10K rounds, maybe spend more money and get out of this "class range". If you're looking for a battle rifle, who cares, you'll either be dead pretty early on, or you can find a battle field pick up that'll be fully automatic which is what we'll all be looking for anyway. Personally, I like the bho feature on the N-Pap, but I like the wood on my Wasr. I enjoy blasting the crap out of stuff with cheap steel cased ammo with both of them. To be honest, I have no idea as to the accuracy of either one of them as to the MOA at a hundred yards because that's not what I use them for. I point them at something bigger than an inch, pull the trigger and hit what I'm aiming at. To sum it up, I guess I just added one to my post count without answering the question. But I enjoy the crap out of both of them.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:10 AM   #56
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Oh, one other thing...... I'm not a machinist, so maybe this point is completely invalid. I've seen a lot of complaints over the years about the quality of the Yugo builds. To my completely untrained eye, my N-Pap looks like a pretty smoothly built rifle. The machining is crisp, the action is smooth, everything looks heavy and quality if that makes any sense. To me, it's a nicely built rifle. I'm just speaking for the only one I own, and there may have been a TON of completely CRAP rifles imported, but I'm completely happy with mine. I do own a couple of the newer machined AK's who's companies "do it better" and they're both more "pot metal" looking if you know what I mean. They've got more "features", but they just don't measure up to either my N-Pap or Wasr in terms of "beat the hell out of it" usability. Just my 2 cents and I'm not a "lot of experience gun guy".
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:43 AM   #57
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I think the NPAPs are good and well built AKs but...a lot more furniture options for the Wasr, and a common Bulgarian side mount also on the wasrs too.

I prefer the Wasr more and glad to own one. My buddy had a NPAP. I had a few range day visits with his NPAP...Even with the fixed stock he had on it, and swapped it out for a tapco adjustment stock. Both gave one hell of a cheek slap each time firing a shot. So that was a turn off for me, to ever wanna buy one of my own. None of my other Aks do that. (Cheek slap) some might say. “Hey man up and take it!” My response. “No thanks.” And also my 2nd response would be. “I’ll take my wussy Wasr 10, Mak 90, Saiga Iz132, or 2 DDI Bulgarian parts milled and Hammer Forged rifles, all day, over that cheek slap NPAP.”

He also ended up selling his NPAP about 6-9 months after buying it. He later bought a Wasr as well and a DDI milled 4140 receiver w/ Bulgarian parts, fixed stock model as well.

So wasr > NPAP

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Old 11-08-2017, 10:25 AM   #58
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variety is the spice of life. one wasr and one n-pap works for me, both are great.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:15 AM   #59
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[QUOTE=nlopez711;4314004]Should I get a second WASR or an NPAP?[/QUOT

I just snagged an RH-10 from my local shop super cheap. I love my wasr’s and I was in the market for another one. Then the RH-10 popped up and it satisfied the wasr purchase I had times ten bc of the cool extra features. My advice to you would be to grab one of those. Especially if you like a wasr.
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