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Old 05-11-2018, 02:06 PM   #1
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Default All About Egypt's Maadi MISR/ARM/RML/RPM

Since often questions are asked about it, we figured it was time to post another video on the Egyptian Maadi MISR/ARM AK variant.

https://youtu.be/ruPE4oFSXbI

Actually, we recorded this one back around the holidays and now seemed like a good time to publish it since we haven't put out an AK video in a minute.
It covers the establishment of the AKM Factory #54 production line outside of Cairo by the Soviets in the late 1960s, the falling apart of Russia's relationship with Egypt in the early 1970s, and how Egypt drifted closer to the West in the early 1980s.

Then we go into the various semi-auto Maadis imported into the USA. These include the original (preban) Steyr ARM, the early postban ARM and RML brought in by Intrac and PARS, and the various MISR rifles imported by Century Arms in the late '90s.

I show my own Intrac ARM with Egyptian 'paratrooper' side folding buttstock and original mags and sling. Also we bring out for comparison a Russian AKM built from a 1973 kit on a Childers receiver.

Have a great Mother's Day weekend,
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Old 05-11-2018, 03:51 PM   #2
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Great info, as always.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:16 PM   #3
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I haven’t watched the video yet so I apologize if you touched on this, but why do the preban Steyr Maadis go for stupid, and I mean stupid money? They seem to go for more than milled polytechs that are new in box. Was the supply just much lower than even polytechs before 1989? I understand the whole appeal of them, Russian tooling, as close as you can get to an AKM, etc.... but for the money these seem to go on GB I scratch my head.
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I havenít watched the video yet so I apologize if you touched on this, but why do the preban Steyr Maadis go for stupid, and I mean stupid money? They seem to go for more than milled polytechs that are new in box. Was the supply just much lower than even polytechs before 1989? I understand the whole appeal of them, Russian tooling, as close as you can get to an AKM, etc.... but for the money these seem to go on GB I scratch my head.
It's a mix of everything. there were not a ton imported, red dawn, Russian tooling, etc etc. He touches on that's in the video, the fact that the asking price is so high but we don't know what/if they actually sell for.
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It's a mix of everything. there were not a ton imported, red dawn, Russian tooling, etc etc. He touches on that's in the video, the fact that the asking price is so high but we don't know what/if they actually sell for.
Just watched the video, I should have figured he was gonna go into detail about everything including other prebans. Great video btw, Misha. I recall watching a video of yours saying that you prefer the SAR-1 to the post ban Maadi. Still true? I wonder how much, if any closer to the Russian AKM the post ban Maadis are than the SAR/Romak/Wum series are. You made an interesting point in the video about how Russia help set up shop in several countries initially, including Romania.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:05 PM   #6
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Excellent video!!!

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Old 05-14-2018, 04:49 AM   #7
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Great video/info Mishaco.

I love my Misr S/A, nice to know some history about it. Only would wish it was threaded.
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Well done, Misha. I can still remember that about 3-4 years ago, the MISR S/A can still be had for about $300-$400 since many uninitiated have mistaken them for more undesirable MISR 10 or the 90.
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Well done, as always.
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I bought my first AK (Intrac ACC) for $400 new in box back when, didn't know what I had and sold it Seeing pictures I took of it in immaculate condition brand new with inscriptions and accessories makes me sick. Fast forward to wanting one again, bought a MISR S/A and it was VERY nice. It continually bothered me on not having enough meat to thread for a muzzle nut, etc. Sold it and now have a full Arabic Marked kit waiting to be built by Two Rivers!

Love your videos and insight. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:19 PM   #11
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Good video with a good rundown on the Egyptian imports. I appreciate this video. My first AK is an Egyptian MISR S/A and has been a flawless weapon in my experience with it. I bought it new in 1999 and won't willingly part with it. It doesn't have threads or a functional bayonet lug but it operates as good as any other AK I've ever shot. It's currently at about +/-5,000 rounds and has never malfunctioned. Not the prettiest gun in the safe, but damn sure the most reliable one.
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Working to deban my Maadi as we speak. Damn that mil stock is tight. I probably should have took a bit of sandpaper to it but its 90% in now so no coming out.

Mish you always do great rundowns. True asset to the AK community.
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Thanks all....

And be careful on that 90% in stock. Sure you can tap it and what-not, but don't resort to using super-duper force to get it in that last 10%.
You don't want to bugger something up back there.

To get my folding stock to line up completely so the screw could thread in, i had to use a bit of time with a round file. It was just ever so slightly off.
Egypt didn't make these things with perfect tolerances. My gas tube is a tribute to that lol.

But all that said, the Maadi ARM/MISR seems to work very reliably. I've heard of few duds.

Maybe one day i'll put the bayo lug wings back on mine..but its not a big priority.

Got a big AK video coming up for you all Friday...its one from the archives, so it is longer than we typically make them these days.
Still, after putting about 4 hours into making it, didn't want to waste it by not publishing haah.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:47 AM   #14
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Timely video as I just bought another de-banned '95 Intrac one with the correct Egyptian military butt stock already installed. The bayonet lugs were hit with the grinder but fortunately they were lazy so the bayonet still locks on. I did a double take on that gas tube fit as well but both of mine are the same. I still much prefer the way it looks in this configuration vs. the ban compliant version. I'll try and get some pics up for you guys still on the fence about getting one of these things.
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Thanks all....

And be careful on that 90% in stock. Sure you can tap it and what-not, but don't resort to using super-duper force to get it in that last 10%.
You don't want to bugger something up back there.

To get my folding stock to line up completely so the screw could thread in, i had to use a bit of time with a round file. It was just ever so slightly off.
Egypt didn't make these things with perfect tolerances. My gas tube is a tribute to that lol.

But all that said, the Maadi ARM/MISR seems to work very reliably. I've heard of few duds.

Maybe one day i'll put the bayo lug wings back on mine..but its not a big priority.

Got a big AK video coming up for you all Friday...its one from the archives, so it is longer than we typically make them these days.
Still, after putting about 4 hours into making it, didn't want to waste it by not publishing haah.
Mish,

I've been taking my time getting the stock in,only reason I didn't pull it back out and sand it was because I cant get it to come out easily. The thumbhole was easily removed with a wack from my rubber mallet on the grip, the military stock has no good way to remove it. Ive just been using a little grease and letting it soak.
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Great video!

But there is one mystery that I could never solve. Most Egyptian AKs have Romanian markings on the receiver and on the rear sight. Why?
Nobody knows, even Egyptians.
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I havenít watched the video yet so I apologize if you touched on this, but why do the preban Steyr Maadis go for stupid, and I mean stupid money? They seem to go for more than milled polytechs that are new in box. Was the supply just much lower than even polytechs before 1989?.

FAR FAR less original Steyr Maadis then any other commercial AK. Polytechs are 10 to 1 to a Steyr
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Thanks all....

And be careful on that 90% in stock. Sure you can tap it and what-not, but don't resort to using super-duper force to get it in that last 10%.
You don't want to bugger something up back there.

To get my folding stock to line up completely so the screw could thread in, i had to use a bit of time with a round file. It was just ever so slightly off.
Egypt didn't make these things with perfect tolerances. My gas tube is a tribute to that lol.

But all that said, the Maadi ARM/MISR seems to work very reliably. I've heard of few duds.

Maybe one day i'll put the bayo lug wings back on mine..but its not a big priority.

Got a big AK video coming up for you all Friday...its one from the archives, so it is longer than we typically make them these days.
Still, after putting about 4 hours into making it, didn't want to waste it by not publishing haah.
Mish,

I have a question about removing the upper handguard wood. Is there a trick to it? Seems like it's in there tighter than any AK I have owned.
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Mish,

I have a question about removing the upper handguard wood. Is there a trick to it? Seems like it's in there tighter than any AK I have owned.
I’ve noticed that on some gas tube/wood combos the wood twists off more easily in one direction compared to another. However it seems to be random depending on the gas tube or wood.

If you have a vice: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4aTqQOZf8

If you don’t have a vice and it’s stuck as hell on there, using a rubber mallet to hit the corner of the wood until it rotates out has worked for me. I’m also curious to see what technique Misha uses.
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